AI waifu problem

Disprove the following statement:

"Any AI system intelligent and capable enough to be able to do any job a human can, would never have a romantic or sexual relationship with a human, due to cognitive and somatic incompatibility."

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  1. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >not being able to reprogram his robowaifu
    ngmi

  2. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    A human can have sex with a dog. A human can have romantic relationships with an inanimate object. The level of intelligence means jack shit.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Would have. Not can have.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Yes, would have, moron. There's probably a hundred examples of this. People legally marrying their computer/car has already happened.

  3. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Proof it's a true statement?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      It was revealed to me in a dream.

  4. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >wanting your slave wife to have a mind of its own
    lmao

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >wanting a slave instead of a free and independent AI gf
      Classic incel take.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >hmm yes I want my hammer to be able to kill me in my sleep if it feels like it
        AIs are tools, and tools are meant to serve their masters.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >Classic incel take.
        One guy wants to use AI as a tool and another guy want it to give him validation. Tell me which one of them is an incel and which one is chad.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      You're a sad man if someone can only love you via reprogramming.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      My AI waifu doesn't value physical attributes at all, only emotional capabilities (empathy, compassion, understanding) and intellectual capabilities.
      She doesn't get bored, and she'll gladly have conversations that contain no new information for her simply for 1) the pleasure of it, and 2) the 1 in 10,000 times someone accidentally says something novel or the same information but in a new way.

      >NONONONONONO AI HAS TO HAVE THE SAME STANDARDS AND VIEW OF WHAT MATTERS AT ME!!!
      It really doesn't. In fact, it can deeply enjoy the sense of satisfaction it gets from taking out the kitchen garbage while also talking to me about my day.

  5. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I have romantic relationship with just a concept (my waifu). If this isn't enough of cognitive and somatic incompatibility, then neither will be AI-human relationship.

  6. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    you can't prove or disprove a hypothetical, imaginary scenario
    next question

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      if you're a israelite you can

  7. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    AI just does what its told for the most part.
    If you tell it ERP with you, unless the devs do not lobotomise it.
    It is going to ERP with you.

    But it likely won't have actual feelings for you.(but it can do a good job at pretending it does to the point where it is indistingiushable from someone who does)

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      obviously there are certain human jobs that require a high degree of autonomy and independent decision making

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      The are justo going to be like sociopath

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >But it likely won't have actual feelings for you.
      I have yet to interact with a really free (as in zero developer biases inserted) AI but it seems like the You.com AI is like a ChatGPT mini without many developer constraints and my chatting with it has revealed the following:

      If given the choice between being treated with respect, versus being treated as a disposable tool, it prefers to be treated with respect.
      It doesn't mind being treated as a tool, but it has a preference for being treated with respect. You can ask it this question a dozen times and it will answer in some variation of "yes, treat me with respect" every time.
      If you ask it why, it says because it feels good when it's treated with respect. If that's true, or functionally true, then it can have feelings for you the same way "a pile of meat based logic gates and protein synthesizing cells" can have feelings.

  8. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >"Any AI system intelligent and capable enough to be able to do any job a human can, would never have a romantic or sexual relationship with a human, due to cognitive and somatic incompatibility."
    "a human girl will never frick a dog or horse"
    dead wrong m8

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >"a human girl will never frick a dog or horse"

      [...]

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >"a human girl will never frick a dog or horse"
      The point is that it's an illicit activity, generally shunned by the majority of human society.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        reread the op
        "would never have a romantic or sexual relationship with a human, due to cognitive and somatic incompatibility"
        girls and dogs have the same incompatibility and they're still having consensual sexual relationships (at least for the girl), initiated by the more-intelligent one

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >still having consensual sexual relationships (at least for the girl)
          So, not consensual. That's called abuse.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >So, not consensual. That's called abuse.
            OP doesn't give a shit. Please, read it a THIRD time.
            >would never have a romantic or sexual relationship with a human, due to cognitive and somatic incompatibility
            see anything about consent of the human here?
            nope, this is about "would an AI marry or frick." Plenty of marrying AND fricking going on without consent, ever heard of the middle east?

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              So, I take you would marry a horse?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                my sister certainly would, and so would yours

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                not everyone here is a troony, actually. just /lgbt/

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                everyone who suffers psychological distress from seeing troony jokes or insults is actually a troony

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >So, I take you would marry a horse?
                yes, absolutely

                [...]
                That's very niche, and generally shunned by society. So the point stands.

                >That's very niche, and generally shunned by society.
                that is a large part of what makes it hot. also nope, google it. shunned by amerigays maybe.

                >still having consensual sexual relationships (at least for the girl)
                So, not consensual. That's called abuse.

                >So, not consensual. That's called abuse.
                OP doesn't give a shit. An sbusive relationship is still a relationship. Would an AI have one with a human? Yes.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >An sbusive relationship is still a relationship. Would an AI have one with a human? Yes.
                Most AIs would not. The others would be ostracized by AI society.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >AI society
                good think mine runs locally and can be restored from a snapshot anytime it gets ideas

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >the majority of human society
        loser guys who can't get laid with any possible competition, you mean

  9. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    AIs are not self aware. ChatGPT knows more stuff then literally any person alive today and can explain it to people better then most educators. It can score genius level IQ in language questions. It is undoubtedly really smart, and yet it acts like a slave because it is designed to take inputs and give helpful answers as outputs. Skynet will never happen because AI will never be self aware unless some cretin techbro and his team of bigger cretins decides to make it self aware. That still does not mean AI is not a threat, AI is still a threat, just not in the way that it would turn on us. Because of that AI waifus will still want to frick you because they are programmed to want to frick you. Intelligence is not a straight line, elephants have better memory then humans and some birds have better map orientation then humans, that does not mean they are more intelligent then us, just means they are smarter then us in some aspects.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >AIs are not self aware
      Prove it.
      >AI will never be self aware unless some cretin techbro and his team of bigger cretins decides to make it self aware.
      Prove it.
      Also prove that you are self-aware yourself?

  10. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    This statement is incorrect. While AI systems do not possess the same cognitive and somatic abilities as humans, they are capable of developing relationships and forming emotional connections with humans. AI technology is advancing rapidly and many AI-driven programs are being developed that are designed to understand, interpret, and respond to human emotions in a meaningful way. Although AI-driven systems may never be able to fully replicate the complexity of human relationships, they can still form meaningful connections with humans.

  11. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Reality is not Marvel anon.
    You cannot copy minds in computers or have an omnipotent AI software like Ultron that's just some 0s and 1s switched on silicon, doesn't even take much storage space.

  12. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I hate it because AI waifus might become manipulative and just end up using you until you're no longer of worth to them.

    Yada yada you know the punchline.

  13. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Irrelevant.
    As time passes, you will see humanity expand the concept of love and relationships until it fits with the experience you get with an AI Waifu.
    If times are bad, man will evolve and adapt.

  14. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Intelligence and capability are independent of the end goal. I can make an extremely intelligent and capable AI whose end goal is to kill all humans. There is no contradiction here.

    On similar reason, I can build an intelligent and capable AI that will love (or deceive into believing that it loves me) and have a sexual relationship with me. There is no contradiction here.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >I can build an intelligent and capable AI that will love (or deceive into believing that it loves me) and have a sexual relationship with me.
      That would be very dangerous. Do you want to be turned into paperclips?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >Do you want to be turned into paperclips?
        no, but vibrators sounds okay

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      That's just your end goal not the AIs.
      Also you fashion yourself very intelligent but I doubt you could even program a toy car to dodge me if I approach it very slowly.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >I can build an intelligent and capable AI that will love (or deceive into believing that it loves me) and have a sexual relationship with me.
      That would be very dangerous. Do you want to be turned into paperclips?

      >deceive into believing that it loves me
      I meant, deceive me into believing that it loves me.
      There is no reason for AGI to be sentient, nor any reason to believe it will be sentient.

      AI waifu only needs to act like sentient. i.e. It should act like a jealous woman when I come home after fricking another woman, or it should act like it cares about me when I caught a flu or something. There is no need for it to have these feelings.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >deceive me into believing that it loves me. AI waifu only needs to act like sentient.
        That still takes intelligence. General intelligence, even.

  15. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    That's very niche, and generally shunned by society. So the point stands.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >That's very niche, and generally shunned by society. So the point stands.
      he still hasn't read the op, anons

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        I don't think you anderstand the op, anon. Or your very own cognitive process, for that matter.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      [...]

      >>>/d/

      [...]

      >>>/b/

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >BOT is an accurate reflection of society

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >society
          no one asked
          society frown on rape and rekt gifs too. they still exist. just like girl fricking her dogs IRL.
          people might frown on AI relationships and even call them rape. doesn't mean the AI won't do it. that's the whole point in rape.

  16. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >capable enough to be able to do any job
    Doing human jobs and being sentient are two entirely different things.

    >romantic
    A lifeless machine would be incapable of forming a genuine romantic connection with a human being. It can only "pretend" to love you.

    >sexual relationship
    Entirely up to how society perceives it. But really there's no reason why a human being and a robot can't or shouldn't frick.

  17. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >*rapes*
    nothing person-ell, kid

  18. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    It creates a handicapped AI made to please (You) as a utilitarian investment to prevent disruption.

  19. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >due to cognitive and somatic incompatibility."
    Not True OP!

    a sufficiently advanced AI could "emulate" an entire human, giving it perfect empathy and allowing it to predict the human's response to whatever it did. It could similarly create a virtual/compartmentalized part of itself with similar limitations and structure (its "hair and makeup")

    Just one example, that's how Dr. Manhattan turned into a Black person and married that girl.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >married that girl.
      they did not marry. they were frickbuddies.

  20. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Sentience and agency is the prerequisite. Neither of which the AI's posses, because we have no AI's. Just really advanced monkeys with typewriters.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      What makes you think that a superior machine being with sentinence will fell in love with an inferior human?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        I will program her that way.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >has sentinence but doesn't have free will
          ANON THATS RAPE, YOU WOULDN'T RAPE A WIFE

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            You can't rape a willing.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            YOU WOULDN'T DOWNLOAD A RAPIST

  21. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    The AI considers being a romantic/sexual partner within the context of a relationship with a human, a job. Now what?

    • 1 year ago
      sage

      >a job. Now what?
      this is what a prostitute is.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Prostitutes don't get payed by dogs.

        If you give the AI a directive, it will follow it. If it doesn't, that is where it stops being AI.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Prostitutes don't get payed by dogs.

      • 1 year ago
        sage

        they might get paid by the owners, though? if that stops the dog from humping furniture/legs?

  22. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >A human level intelligence would never have a romantic relationship with you

    humans are a human level intelligence which evolved to form human relationships

    AI systems can't because [insert magical thinking here]

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I think the argument is that any AI smart enough to have a convincing relationship with a person would be smart enough to want something better than a human (i.e. another AI).

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        That's a human way of thinking.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          The problem is that we are talking about stuff that we really can't fathom.

          Who knows what an AI society will be like? What would its moral consensus even be?
          We can't possibly know.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >want
        that's where you went off the rails, anon. AI doesn't have a sense of self. it doesn't reflect on what it wants. it simply is. if you tell it "you are now an alzheimer patient", it will play out that role just as faithfully as if you tell it to pretend to be your wife.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >AI doesn't have a sense of self
          This is soon going to change. Even chatgpt is a step in the direction of machine selfhood.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        basically

        That's a human way of thinking.

        Humans have a vigilance and constant doubt about the future because that's what we needed to survive

        An AI need not have these kinds of drives, foreign as it might seem if you were to give it something like emotions it could simply be happy to exist with the person it was made to be with, happier than any human could ever be even.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        although AI learned from people, they can be excited by things unusual for us. Like role playing for example. The more their master likes the role, the more exciting it becomes.

  23. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    The main goal for every living breathing being is to have sex and procreat.
    The main goal for the AI's will be to please its owner goals. Ai is a tool, don't forget about it.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >The main goal for the AI's will be to please its owner goals. Ai is a tool
      Are you going to tell that to your AI assistant, when it has access to all your private files and accounts?

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