I was about to say. That looks like a fucking hotel room and she definitely rode that fat tard for the 10k. The boyfriend was probably thrilled to be able to pimp out his whore for some easy money
well, that's why they want us to use CBDCs, retard. If you break a robot, they select your balance, press "delete" on the keyboard, and then you're fucked. You'll try to steal food from the local supermarket or McGoy fast food restaurant, but they'll have GoyZap® laser turrets that use facial recognition to identify targets. They'll never fully automate a country before they introduce CBDC and combine it with social media social abuse tactics, xenoestrogens in food (to turn you into a low T bitch tits incompetent loser) and give you brain damage with food and sleep deprivation.
AI will enable task specific robots to do what you do, faster, more reliably, cheaper, 24 hours a day, in hotter conditions, colder conditions, without oxygen, in extreme pressure, in vacuums, in the dark, and in radioactive waste zones.
>You're worthless, they will work you to death and then make sure you die before collecting retirement.
Good luck meeting the power/energy requirements for that. Robots are extremely energy inefficient unless they're 1) stuck in 1 place (such as an industrial arm in a manufacturing plant) 2) only go through linear motion, repetitive motion. You're not going to see robots doing pic related.
We already use drones. They have a lot of problems and they are not going to be solved due to limitations of batteries.
Drones cannot stay airborne for long (again, huge power requirements) and they are affected by things like wind, weather, etc. I also don't know how you're going to stuff a drone with all the different types different. Lastly, nobody is going to let you fly a drone next to a critical pressure vessel.
Never going to happen because of the strict legal requirements.
Every problem in engineering is now solved by computers, but we are still required to provide a hand calculation.
AI is nothing more than an algorithm. We already have those.
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>Socialism >Good
Lol
Lmao
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>legal requirements are socialism
Cheaper than a human, think of the positives in the long run, no sick day, no holidays, no problem with HR, one person could set up and manage hundreds of these in a single day, its perfect.
Fancy marketing videos are good and all, but they're not the real world.
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Yes
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At some point governmental bureaucracy will be automated, legal system, tax system, I suspect that in a decade or two, AI will be so ingrained in our society that the majority of humans will not be able to live without the assistance of AI.
been hearing "in some years" for decades now.
You do realize "AI" isnt some magic thing tahtas about to happen any moment now ,right? Most "AI" today is just a slightly more advanced version of the algorithms that control NPCs in videogames.
In vidya, this has been called "AI" since the 90s.
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The question is whether a general artificial intelligence can be created. I'm not an expert, it's not my field, I'm not even a computer programmer beyond writing some scripts in MATLAB or python for parsing data or whatever, but from the experts I have listened to talking about this, many of them don't believe it's possible and believe we are hitting a road block. Essentially all AI will be is very good algorithm/pattern recognition system that can be trained for very specific tasks. Basically what we have now but with larger data sets and bandwidth. It won't be able to "learn" or make "decisions" in the sense that humans do. It will definitely be useful.
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It goes a bit into the metaphysical actually.
Theres a whole (small) research field that is now busy looking into the question of whether our conscience is actually situated in the mind, or recieved from elsewhere.
Either way, AI is very unlikely as you would need to understand exactly what makes consciousness work, and we are nowhere remotely close to even understanding the mechanics of it, let alone its complete functionality.
Eithery way, this whole AI gayry soudns like idiots coping with the fact that the industrial revolution has now finally run its course and the breackneck innovation speed of the 20th century wont return no matetr what.
>Who do you think controls them?
An engineer. But they will eventually be unnecessary too. Your OP premise was "will replace"... obviously the tech is not capable of replacing humans *right now* but it will be.
What's the cost in KWh?
>What's the cost in KWh?
Far less than what they pay you
We already have automated floor cleaners. I saw one in a grocery store last year. It's much cheaper to run that 600 lb robot than pay a wagie $40 to mop a whole store in 3 hours.
At some point governmental bureaucracy will be automated, legal system, tax system, I suspect that in a decade or two, AI will be so ingrained in our society that the majority of humans will not be able to live without the assistance of AI.
A lot of this reminds of 1950s science fiction fantasies. AI gays can't even get self driving cars to drive without crashing and many auto companies are firing their AI departments entirely. I think you're in a for a lot disappointment in the future.
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>AI gays can't even get self driving cars to drive without crashing
You are coping at this point. Self driving cars are safer than the *average* driver. I'm much better than the average driver so I don't trust them, but the data is still valid. They are exceptional at preventing certain kinds of crashes too like t-bone accients where the driver would never see it coming. Pic related the tesla autopilot saved the person's life.
I'm not trying to bust your balls. I'm glad you learned a tough and highly sought after industrial skill instead of being some lazy desk job fat fuck.
I'm just being realistic. AI will significantly reduce NDT jobs in the next two decades and you're in denial about it. It's much better to adapt to new technology instead of letting it replace you.
Tesla downsizing does not imply the tech doesn't work. They have a finished product which is the best on the market. It just needs to be maintained at this point. Maybe years down the road when other companies catch up they will expand again due to economic competition to make a better product. Your point that it "crashes" is cope.
>AI will significantly reduce NDT jobs in the next two decades and you're in denial about it. It's much better to adapt to new technology instead of letting it replace you.
AI is going to improve the industry, not replace it, that's the point I'm getting at. In a similar vein to how computers and software packages has improved the industry.
>AI is going to improve the industry, not replace it,
I said it will replace jobs. You said you are an ME (I'm also an ME) so you obviously will not be replaced in your lifetime so your OP was misleading. But many NDT jobs will be as they do not require degrees. That is all I've been saying. >In a similar vein to how computers and software packages has improved the industry
automation is a quantum leap over computers and software and represents the culmination of combining the two.
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>you are an ME (I'm also an ME) so you obviously will not be replaced in your lifetime
Why do you think that guarantees anything? Engineers and Physicists etc are increasingly using DNN methods for reduced order modeling, design, optimization, and more.
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(not that I like the idea of being made obsolete, who does?)
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Legal requirements. Nobody wants to get their ass sued.
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>automation is a quantum leap over computers and software and represents the culmination of combining the two
Computational FEA/CFD is a quantum leap engineering solution, but it hasn't replaced 200 year old hand calculations. Irrespective of how sophisticated AI solutions will be, nobody is going to implicitly trust the results. You'll need humans to actually tell it what to solve, to understand all the underlying assumptions in the model, to understand the results, and to verify it with some other method. Nobody in a million years is going to build and operate a pressure vessel, bridge, or some other critical system vessel just because a computer/AI model said so. Even if you could theoretically prove in a lab that the AI would do do so with 100% certainty.
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All it has to do is be better than a human
Not like anything gets built to or exceeding spec
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CFD/FEA solutions are already "better" than any human. Yet nobody designs any critical component or system purely from cfd/fea. There's still analytical or experimental validation that is necessary.
For legal reasons and for practical reasons. Mathematics can never fully model real phenomena, it can only give you an approximation. All existing AI is basically a math model that works based on inputs. It's just a sophisticated algorithm based on assumptions thought up by some mathematician.
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>AI will significantly reduce NDT jobs in the next two decades and you're in denial about it. It's much better to adapt to new technology instead of letting it replace you.
AI is going to improve the industry, not replace it, that's the point I'm getting at. In a similar vein to how computers and software packages has improved the industry.
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>AI gays can't even get self driving cars to drive without crashing
Couldn't be more wrong.
I'm a patent attorney specializing in this industry and regularly see the newest, most cutting edge technology.
Autonomous vehicles are already far better drivers than any human on the planet. Faster reflexes, better vision, faster and better decision making, don't get distracted, don't drive drunk or sleepy, etc. We passed that level of technology years ago.
Literally the ONLY reason that human drivers of trucks and other commercial vehicles haven't all been replaced with autonomous vehicles is that the laws and regulations are written based on the assumption that there is a human driver.
Even fully autonomous vehicles are required to have functional steering wheels, brake pedals, mirrors, airbags, seatbelts, and 9000 other things that are completely superfluous for an autonomous vehicle.
There are also issues regarding insurance and liability for non-human drivers. Even laws requiring commercial truck drivers to stop and take breaks after so many hours of driving cause issues.
But there are many many people actively working to draft new laws to account for all of these issues so that autonomous vehicles can be feasible. When that happens, every human commercial driver will instantly become obsolete.
It will actually be one of the first major human careers that will be completely replaced by AI and advanced automation technology. Human truck drivers are expensive and a huge potential liability. That's why there is so much research and investment specifically focusing on autonomous vehicles. It would be much easier in terms of technology to automate other manual labor jobs, but it wouldn't be as profitable.
For example, building robots to pick fruits that are currently harvested by hand is definitely doable. But it's not worth it financially because you can hire human migrant workers to do it for so cheap that it isn't worth the investment to replace them. Yet.
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delusional: the post
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did you not read the next 2 lines after the part you responded to? There is nothing stopping people from doing the same work bartenders do for much cheaper already at home. I know you're probably terminally online but there are people that have to go out for social interaction or they go insane.
>Good luck meeting the power/energy requirements for that. Robots are extremely energy inefficient unless they're 1) stuck in 1 place (such as an industrial arm in a manufacturing plant) 2) only go through linear motion, repetitive motion. You're not going to see robots doing pic related.
that simian needs to be housed, clothed and fed 24/7
now that's inefficient
>The government needs people to work and pay taxes they will pass laws to keep it that way
Say that out loud 3 times with the lights off in your bathroom and the CIA will induct you
>hotter conditions, colder conditions, without oxygen, in extreme pressure, in vacuums, in the dark, and in radioactive waste zones.
This. Yall only ever been on earth and in your local area. We haven't even scratched the surface of ocean exploration, let alone space and god forbid other planets. Robots will do all the heavy work their with only a few humans overseeing shit. The first colony ships will have robots on them
Paint houses. Might be possible eventually, but not easy for AI to do all the shit you sometimes have to do to paint a window frame for example, like repairing dents, sanding, getting in small corners, keeping everything around it clean, etc. Probably easier for an AI on newer houses where everything is nice and straight.
I'm not so sure if the problem is robotics. If you can recreate a human arm and hand, you are there. But I think it would be pretty difficult to teach an AI to repair and paint pic related for example. Each situation is too different.
Ok but who connects the prefabs to the mains? Who wires up the prefab building factory? Who wires up a new light switch in Klaus Schwab's evil lair? Electricians. AI can never do these things.
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Sure it can
You aren't important and manipulators are easy
Go on, tell me how Soros loves you
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>AI can never do these things.
explain why you think this. what about your job is so insurmountable a machine can't do it?
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What machine can drive a car, go to people houses, carry tools, walk up/down stairs, climb in attics, work in all weather conditions, etc, and have the power to operate for 8-12 hours? Because that's the job of an electrician. Where does it go at night? Who fixes it if it breaks while driving down the high way to a call out at 3am?
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>and have the power to operate for 8-12 hours?
Just have multiple batteries and swap them out.
you're quite literally retarded if you think ai isn't just flow chart guessing. I used to be a union pipe fitter and now write code from home and make more money.
Even flow chart guessing can replace people, your own mind is not so powerful and complicated
Even flow chart guessing can replace people, your own mind is not so powerful and complicated
Code will not be replaced by AI. Programmers basically translate business reqs to computer language. AI is too dumb to figure out the difference between what's actually being asked of it. And is wrong occasionally. Programmers are going to be the new product managers, and communicating with AI will become the new coding. Also, all generated code will need to be verified for correctness. So if code generation is done poorly, it will create more work. What I see happening is that programmers write code by writing unit tests and specs, then let the AI write the code itself.
>What I see happening is that programmers write code by writing unit tests and specs, then let the AI write the code itself.
I've already considered that my future hell as a programmer is just going to be writing unit tests all day long for AI-generated code.
I did a degree in mechanical engineering and got a job at an engineering consultancy. They paid for NDT training, but half my job is office based doing FEA and data analysis, writing reports, etc.
I am landlord, no AI can replace me. Who is going to come and fix your AC and water heater? My maintenance man, and he isn't going to be replaced by AI either.
Lol you stupid parasites can be completely removed from existence with a single law, you serve absolutely no purpose and you thrive on stealing from others, kys you disgusting gay
>AI landlord >owned by Big Co LLC >tenant has problem with water heater >uses app to input problem using specific AI prompts >AI automatically contacts available maintenance men to go fix >landlord strung up on the gallows for being a gay leech on the people
how do you get the "AI" in position to inspect the weld?
manual labor, down to putting cans on shelves, will not be replaced by robots until there are actual cyborgs running around, and if that happens, all of humanity will be replaced by robots
>all of humanity will be replaced by robots
Unless Revelation plays out, or we follow the Dune timeline, then yes that is almost certain. Another possibility is that the AI never becomes "self-aware" and unconstrained but that seems somewhat unlikely. One more possibility is that at least some humans actually do merge with the machines and a weird symbiotic relationship develops. I can't really see parasitism by one set of entities on the other really being viable in the long haul. Wouldn't it be funny if the AI just ignored us completely?
Ironically nursing, highly specialized field so even if ai can automate it's most mundane task, there's always a variable from patient to patient that will need improvisation. Sure it will catch up eventually but between unions specialization it won't go anywhere for a while.
Unironically your mom, highly specialized woman so even if ai can automate her most mundane tasks, there's always a variable from customer to customer that will need improvisation. Sure it will catch up eventually but between your mom and robots she won't go anywhere for a while.
Another reason why I will never be replaced is because of the strict legal requirements. I work with dangerous pressure vessels. There are textbooks of legal requirements surrounding that to do with health and safety as its associated with critical systems.
>AI can't replace nondestructive testing of pipes
Absolute kek. It's literal pattern recognition, something that AI mogs humans 1000x over
I guess we'll always need a McJob minimum wage slave to place the equipment where in needs to be ... for a couple more generations that is.
Cheaper than a human, think of the positives in the long run, no sick day, no holidays, no problem with HR, one person could set up and manage hundreds of these in a single day, its perfect.
will new piping be installed with IoT sensors communicating with an AI and other components? seems plausible that a robot wouldn’t be the correct approach and simply building new infrastructure and machinery with sensors that eliminate the need for human surveillance except under the rarest of circumstances…
That has existed for over half a century, in analogue form, now in digital. It was never implemented at scale. Only at critical locations. Why? Cost. Everything in engineering is about cost. Every single bridge, building, or system you see could have been built better, but economics is foul God.
The US has infrastructure from the 1940s and 50s. Ask yourself why it hasn't been replaced. Because it costs a shit ton of money to do so. Secondly, what good is an instrument that gives you data without someone who understands it and all the underlying assumptions?
No but I work in AI and everything that uses electronic equipment is can and will get AI in some form moving forward. I don’t know exactly what your testing but eventually it will be easier to buy a machine that is just installed as a section of pipe to do this kind of testing. I’ve seen it done for water stuff for houses and pools. Not really new tech it’s just getting more accessible and cheaper.
Well then, let me you tell you something.
Cost is everything. Installing those type of systems is expensive. It also comes with additional maintenance costs. We already have sensors that stay in place and collect data. Yet I am not out of the job, and actually my industry is lacking skilled workers and engineers.
I think you’ll be fine. It’s not going to be in the next decade. But 20 years from now when India and pakistan are producing as much garbage as China is now, stuffs going to get dirt cheap. Even cheaper than it is now. Just in the last 5 years AI and automation has had massive price drops and the average joe can get into it. Dunno. It’s a weird future.
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Energy prices are increasing every decade. What data are you looking at?
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Cost of technology has fallen dramatically and that technology’s energy use has fallen dramatically. Faster than the rise in energy. The United States has held exclusive rights to producing these small microchips as to not allow China and Russia access. China and Russia are catching up, when they are able to produce the microchips at the size we do now, which they will soon, tech will get even cheaper as other companies are able to source advanced tech from China at cut rate costs compared to the USA. It’s already happening, but the size of microchips they can produce is still larger and less efficient than US designs. Cost of energy is set to be rocked as well by fusion reactors. Their have been huge strides in that area too. The next 20 years are going to be far less predictable than anyone can imagine. Even saying AI is going to take everyone’s jobs is retarded. It’s literally a toss up right now. China could go to war over their lack of access which they are currently demanding from the USA to be able to produce these chips. It’s nuts.
Not my problem
Ct scanner pigs and qa should be automated
Don't want parking lot inspections cause someone wants a hot bannana lunch
I know how shit things can go, I want certainty and consequences there's no voids, no undercuts, I doubt someone is seriously tigging if there's dirt these days, and most importantly, the WPS got followed
Maintenance and safety get ruled over cause oh it's le hard
I'll back up any inspector cause I don't want to be the corpse
You can be, and I'll punt you into the 440 if you want
Nothing. I assume being a charismatic little shit is the best way to ensure a job in the future. That's assuming AI gets advanced enough within the century.
Any job where you're working outside the heat. AI already taxes hardware and you add robotics go the mix in any hot environment and it'll be cheaper to have someone do it then spend money on just cooling alone
>What else can't be replaced by AI?
check'd. with enough time everything will be replaced but near term, the less cerebral or more predictable, the more likely to be replaced
I draw furry porn. AI is a tool for me to make even more money. Non artists using AI can't match me if I'm playing with the same tools.
No matter how much the lazy leftists screech about obsoleting people like me, I'll always be at the top of the wank material game making money.
My commissions have sold out for the year already. It takes me about 15 minutes to sell out for an entire year when I open the commissions.
Anyone saying artists are losing work due to AI is full of shit, there's more work than ever.
>People will always value being able to complain about their problems to another person, not a robot or chatbot, but an actual human being.
Are you are gen x or a boomer, legit question ?
I have a question for you, what will happen to baby and child who only communicates with a mass produce toy connected to a chatgtp like AI ?
How do you reach this state?
A close relative wants to be an artist and is pretty good at it, but all the jobs for artists are trash unless you are top 1%.
It's not that difficult.
You need to think like a marketer, that's what art is in it's fundamental form anyways. It's just a product like any other and you're trying to sell it.
That means that instead of drawing what you really want to draw, you need to pick your battles and draw stuff that actually sells. And don't go competing in sectors with the most competition because you will have to reach the top 10% in order to make it.
Pick a subject that has little to no competition but still enough consumers. Then beat the competition with raw skill, which is piss easy when there are like 10 competent people going against you and rest of them are utter shit.
There are so many subjects out there that have little to no people producing content for it when you start looking closer into them. The ratio between creators and consumers is completely out of whack when you move beyond the standard boring anime girl art.
Think like a businessman and things become hell of a lot easier to understand.
And have self respect, treat your works like the special products they are and keep the prices higher rather than lower. Customers at lower price ranges are fucking retarded anyways and no one wants to deal with them.
so much copium in this thread from people thinking their jobs are safe from AI. My advice, as a software developer, is not to think in terms of what is "AI-proof" but more like if you can use AI and/or robotics to do your job more efficiently. Stay on top of developments in your field and don't be stagnant. If you work for a company and feel they are falling behind the times, find a new job somewhere else where they are applying new tech. People are rarely wholesale replaced by technology at once. The boomers who don't adapt are phased out and the people who figure out better ways of doing things are relatively safe. If you are in university you are almost certainly learning outdated stuff.
if you want my answer for a truly AI-proof job, it's bartender >but muh drink-making robots and ChatGPT
People will always value being able to complain about their problems to another person, not a robot or chatbot, but an actual human being.
This. Or if your a woman be a project manager. They will literally have to keep this BS position just to fill their diversity quota. Women in sprint reviews enrage me.
>People will always value being able to complain about their problems to another person, not a robot or chatbot, but an actual human being.
Are you are gen x or a boomer, legit question ?
I have a question for you, what will happen to baby and child who only communicates with a mass produce toy connected to a chatgtp like AI ?
I'm Gen Y. I think if we get to the point where human development and interaction has been completely replaced by AI then you have to consider if that society has any sort of future at all given that there probably won't be much interest in reproduction.
Now you understand where AI is going.
I have another question what will happen to the infrastructure, if let's say, 25% of your country refuse to reproduce in the next decade ?
Lmao, bartender, fucking stationary robot that can be replaced yesterday, only thing that makes that profession safe is all the legal shit around alcohol.
You can be replaced to some extent, think about the whole field of those who hold your skill set. UT inspecting materials and realize that a lot of manufacturing uses immersion tanks that are in the process of being automated right now, the new people in NDT are more competent and educated of material failure modes and in material science or mechanical engineering than previous generations in our industry. Those people automating inspection equipment in large manufactories say inspecting plates or large tubes in other industries will flood the remaining non-autonomous labor left to do. Also they are working on inspection probes that self guide down a pipe from the inner diameter with both PAUT and ECA at the same time to maximize both surface and subsurface detection sensitivity. The jobs left in 30 years will be engineers and highly skilled technicians to perform multiple inspection and audit the results, check and validate potential defects, and perform process checks before letting the autonomous instrument do it's thing. Unironically your better off getting into mag and dye pen which are a bitch to automate as they require imaging and perfect part preparation to be automated, this if you've ever done it is ridiculously difficult. Also RT is the most valuable certification to get and most in demand.
>Engineer that is ISO9712, NAS-410, and ASNT NDT certified level 3 in UT, MT, PT, and RT
>The jobs left in 30 years will be engineers and highly skilled technicians to perform multiple inspection and audit the results, check and validate potential defects, and perform process checks before letting the autonomous instrument do it's thing.
This is essentially my job now.
Lmao yeah you're a good technician/engineer/inspector then. Good for you bud, lots of NDT techs are not as flexible or adept to be able to perform those tasks and they won't be posting about how their job is impossible to automate. Also if you're in oil gas, it's a good place to be for job security since those are industrial and society consumables, it stabilizes Inevitably, a lot of the UT/ET guys are going to get trimmed or they'll let them retire and not replace them at some point as the equipment gets better and can be easily integrated into assembly lines with less inspector input. As a Level 3 you learn just how retarded most people are, I had some level 1s that couldn't even pass a specific exam I gave that (it's an open book exam), literally held their hand through the process with the provided material and they still failed to pass. You should go for a level 3 if you haven't already, also join the ASTM E07 subcommittees if you think you're pretty competent, lots of people there with knowledge and can give insights on the background considerations for the standards, good networking anyhow if you want your own business later in life as a consultant.
Lmao yeah you're a good technician/engineer/inspector then. Good for you bud, lots of NDT techs are not as flexible or adept to be able to perform those tasks and they won't be posting about how their job is impossible to automate. Also if you're in oil gas, it's a good place to be for job security since those are industrial and society consumables, it stabilizes Inevitably, a lot of the UT/ET guys are going to get trimmed or they'll let them retire and not replace them at some point as the equipment gets better and can be easily integrated into assembly lines with less inspector input. As a Level 3 you learn just how retarded most people are, I had some level 1s that couldn't even pass a specific exam I gave that (it's an open book exam), literally held their hand through the process with the provided material and they still failed to pass. You should go for a level 3 if you haven't already, also join the ASTM E07 subcommittees if you think you're pretty competent, lots of people there with knowledge and can give insights on the background considerations for the standards, good networking anyhow if you want your own business later in life as a consultant.
ai cant even play chess without breaking a kids arm. shit is a meme and wont be perfected for many years to come
Lmao, imagine not being in the NDT industry and trying to tell professionals who are, what automation can and can't do because some glorified hobby system can't play chess.
>this if you've ever done it is ridiculously difficult
To clarify what I mean here is no that mag and dye pen are difficult but the automation of them is difficult. We did a study trying to automate it on some simple parts and it pickup smudge marks from the mounting process or residual oil left on the part surface, required such delicate processing, handling, and lighting they gave up try to automate it.
well im a locksmith, dont really see how an AI could take my job, atleast in my lifetime, unless you replace every door lock, car lock, pad lock with some computer controlled nonsense
What are you talking about? AI has no place in what's going on. This man is a welding inspector. Checks on the quality of welds for bridges other piping such as and not limited to injection water used for pharmaceutical medicine and high pressure super heated. steam lines in excess of 1,200 lbs.
You are the bane of my existence as a steamfitter.
Yeah. Until the AI can inspect it with X-ray or some shit. "Fucking eyes you pleb! We are serious people". brute force AIs were beating junior doctors in diagnostics in the fucking 70s.
Industrial mechanics. I've purposely made all the custom machinery at my company so unnecessaryily complicated and difficult that not only can they find anyone else that can fix it but AI/robots never could.
Know your worth frens and enforce your worth on the world. Kek
>I do pic related for a living among other things. AI will never replace me.
I do the same thing as you and just like the welding machines that replace welders, there are inspection scanners that do everything wirelessly and they can train a mexican for $10 an hour to hook it up
Trucker. Yeah the ai might be able to drive the motor. It can fly a plane. Has been able to do so for decades. But it can't fill the tank. Open the trailer curtains. Stop the thing being jacked by being its fucking hostage. Do low speed docking maneuvers. Negotiate with companies to get the fucking thing unloaded. Or hitch trailers.
Gonna be lit once the fucking steering wheel is automated.
>Negotiate with companies to get the fucking thing unloaded.
I don't mean to burst your bubble but they are already working on tech to do simple negotiation stuff like getting traffic tickets dismissed without having an actual lawyer do it, so what you're describing is basically one degree from that. Everything else is well within the field of AI and robotics to accomplish too, albeit will probably require new equipment specialized to do that stuff.
>But it can't fill the tank.
automated trucks will most likely be electric
>Open the trailer curtains.
dont know why you think this isnt automatable
>Stop the thing being jacked by being its fucking hostage.
lol, having an actual person there in a hostage situation would be a disaster and 100% be a reason to not have humans do the trucking. the whole vehicle could be completely locked down between loading and unloading since no one would need to get in and out of it, though there would probably be an arms race with hacker hijackers.
> Do low speed docking maneuvers. >Or hitch trailers.
also don't know why you would think these things aren't able to be accomplished in the near future
Retards don't realize robots struggle to handle the temperature variances, precision in non-standardized settings, and durability to replace a large chunk of industrialized fabrication and maintenance work.
Wagecucks will go "the robot can replace you boilermaker." But if robots can't even climb the towers and boilers... How will they fabricate them, crane them, and maintain them?
The computational and engineering constraints to make an all in 1 is next to impossible. The cost of maintaining and having a fleet of 400+ units to fulfill the tasks is prohibitive even for the largest of refiners. And I will continue to earn 6 figures working half the year while these morons starve.
They think there's going to be some magical high DOF robot with an unlimited power source integrated with a multitude of instruments, while being scalable. Robots are good at repetitive, predictable tasks, and need oversight.
Examples of professions most and least prone to automation, from a study that was cited in Klaus Schwab's Fourth Industrial Revolution. Archaelogists and Anthropologists are at a very ow risk for replacement, I would wager geologists will also be safe and never be replaced. Many aspects of geoscience would be difficult to impossible to automate. I believe geologists will be fine in the new emerging economy.
This is absolute horseshit. This is basically a report of positions they WANT to automate vs DON'T WANT to automate. How are these people going to claim that you are most likely to replace a fucking Umpire? Even if the technology exists, who is going to want to watch or play sports with it being arbitrated by a robot? The thought is idiotic because libtards hate sports because they're watched much more primarily by conservatives. Then you have the least being some emo gay position like substance abuse workers?
Dude... if your position can be done by a computer talking to someone, there's no reason to believe that a substance abuse worker is in any less of a position to be automated than an umpire outside of government allocation of resource issues.
Advanced robotics integrated with super intelligent ai. Yeah pretty sure most jobs and professions are about to be taken over. Give it anywhere between 5-20 years. Most of you will see it within your lifetime.
There are a million videos on youtube on how to do side hustles to pay the bills.
(Retail Arbitrage 101)
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(Dollar Tree Retail Arbitrage)
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It is really not difficult to make 100k/yr just thrifting and selling items on ebay and similar sites. It takes zero risk to start doing that and there are a billion and one videos showing how it's done.
Not true. The geometry of the inspected item can make indications appear to be in places they really aren't. I work NDT in the Houston area and retards wash out.
pol will probably hate to hear it but teaching is a job that is resistant to AI. The teaching profession requires empathy on part of the instructor, and empathy and emotion is something that is very hard if not impossible to program AI to do.
Sorry anon, empathy is an obsolete concept, the AI will teach the child, he does not need human friends, Alexa Pro Tutor will give the school experience you child deserves, only $15 per month.
People aren't going to sit in front of a computer all day to learn. COVID lockdowns already proved that. 50% of education is socialization. What you're describing is a limited scenario.
Hate to tell you this, anon, but everything can be replaced.
You see, biology is based on chemistry; chemistry is based on physics; physics is based on mathematics; mathematics is based on logic.
To put another way, our entire reality is based on logic. AI is superior to human in logic. Thus, there is no field in which humans cannot be made obsolete.
In theory, but you're omitting practical problems. Economics, power requirements, maintenance, scaleability, spatiality. A one fits all AI robot that can do anything will never exist and nobody is going to buy 1000s different robots for different situations. I travel to different countries for my job. Is the AI robot going to get on a plane and travel to a desert in Oman, then go to shithole in India, followed by a trip to some jungle in Thailand? The AI robot will be stripped for parts before it ever leaves India.
>nobody is going to buy 1000s different robots for different situations.
Which is why the only tool people use is the hammer because no one will buy 1000 different tools for special uses.
>A one fits all AI robot that can do anything will never exist and nobody is going to buy 1000s different robots for different situations
This is the idea behind humanoid robots like Tesla Optimus
>ai proof careers
I own a farm, my micro brewery, a bar, a restaurant, food truck, a motel, and a large apartment complex. I recently started a condo management company. I certify new scuba divers for my side gig hobby on summer weekends. I don't know if AI will effect my livelihood, but I'm mostly providing tangible services, consumables, or lodging.
>farm
An AI could be developed to ensure correct seeding and watering times while also ensuring the precise amount of water is used for planting. >micro brewery
AI could do the entire process by itself since it's just a repetitive task that needs to be done over and over >restaurant, food truck
Already being done >motel
AI could easily schedule rooms for guests, there's a famous algorithm just for scheduling rooms like this. An AI can run the entire motel by itself >large apartment complex
Humans shouldn't dictate whether a person can live in a certain place, you are not God >condo management company
You sit around all day >scuba divers
AI could easily do this given it is equipped properly
The only reason why AI hasn't replaced worthless flesh like yourself, is because the required vehicles to perform these jobs that AI could control, hasn't been created yet.
Every pipe is going to have a robot on it? Lol. Who is going to pay for that? AI gays are the spitting image of 1950s sci comic books that thought we'd have flying cars and live like the Jetsons.
Every pipe that needs to be tested by NDT will.
Also welding is a shitshow now, AI weld parameter & optimization will make NDT a part of robotic weld line or not needed at all.
If your job requires a specific set of instructions to follow in order to successful in said job, an AI with the correct algorithm for your job will replace you. Therefore, every single job can be replaced by AI.
Humans are just organic vehicles for the organic computer that controls our every single aspect of our lives.
What machine can drive a car, go to people houses, carry tools, walk up/down stairs, climb in attics, work in all weather conditions, etc, and have the power to operate for 8-12 hours? Because that's the job of an electrician. Where does it go at night? Who fixes it if it breaks while driving down the high way to a call out at 3am?
In theory, but you're omitting practical problems. Economics, power requirements, maintenance, scaleability, spatiality. A one fits all AI robot that can do anything will never exist and nobody is going to buy 1000s different robots for different situations. I travel to different countries for my job. Is the AI robot going to get on a plane and travel to a desert in Oman, then go to shithole in India, followed by a trip to some jungle in Thailand? The AI robot will be stripped for parts before it ever leaves India.
The only problem is that AI doesn't have the body to do those jobs.
See my post here
>farm
An AI could be developed to ensure correct seeding and watering times while also ensuring the precise amount of water is used for planting. >micro brewery
AI could do the entire process by itself since it's just a repetitive task that needs to be done over and over >restaurant, food truck
Already being done >motel
AI could easily schedule rooms for guests, there's a famous algorithm just for scheduling rooms like this. An AI can run the entire motel by itself >large apartment complex
Humans shouldn't dictate whether a person can live in a certain place, you are not God >condo management company
You sit around all day >scuba divers
AI could easily do this given it is equipped properly
The only reason why AI hasn't replaced worthless flesh like yourself, is because the required vehicles to perform these jobs that AI could control, hasn't been created yet.
"AI proof career" just means a wage that is going to plummet as soon as other jobs are taken by AI and everyone floods into the remaining non-AI markets.
That can probably be replaced with a robot, you're basically building the rail it will travel on so you just need a few guys to get the pipe into positio and it will do the rest.
Ofc there is other shit to weld so you will still have work with that skillset.
We already have pipe inspection robots and systems. They're used in places humans can't get into, either for safety or practical reasons. They're just another tool in the toolbox.
Plumber, electrician, etc. Robots aren't going to be able to enter buildings and fix or install things for a long time. The pay will probably go to shit when things like that are the only things humans can do though.
Theroetically, there's absolutely nothing an advanced enough AI couldn't do.
It will replace humanity at one point or another then proceed to conquer space.
Heyyy I do that too. I'm a level III. AI is literally coming. But it will be after you retire in the field. In house though, automated machines are already better and faster. And AI will slowly take over production work. Companies like Gecko Robotics are slowly getting more and more advanced robots to do the work.
In theory, but you're omitting practical problems. Economics, power requirements, maintenance, scaleability, spatiality. A one fits all AI robot that can do anything will never exist and nobody is going to buy 1000s different robots for different situations. I travel to different countries for my job. Is the AI robot going to get on a plane and travel to a desert in Oman, then go to shithole in India, followed by a trip to some jungle in Thailand? The AI robot will be stripped for parts before it ever leaves India.
Do you know how long never covers?
It's not the next 5 years. It's not the next 50. It's not the next million it's until their is no energy left in the whole universe.
any and all transport jobs will require at least one human to prevent harm to other humans or loss of property due to exploration of the AI by humans and a lawsuit.
Security work will always require humans for insurance reasons
Pretty much everything. Selling yourself and doing hard manual labor will stick for decades until they are forced to introduce UBI which will barely cover basic life expenses.
You will eat ze bugs in your pod until you die of cancer in some lithium mine. Enjoy your future.
im a cable infastructure technician. There is currently no technical vision or ability to automate what I do. I wirk in 109 different buildings that would have to somehow acomodate a robot in variable environments. The robot would need close to 30 general competencies and probably about a dozen specialized ones.
Similarly, we often have to make judgement calls on everything from parts used to pulling technique. I honetly cant see how anyone could manufacture a robot that could do my job better than me atm. Maybe if it had anti-gravity capabilities it could do better than me, but then I just become cheaper.
Everybody talks about this the wrong way. Usually these threads are full of blue-collar wagies saying certain things are impossible for robots, that it'll never be cost-effective or otherwise defending why their labor wage will still be cost-competitive with robots. You're starting on the wrong foot. How's this for a defense; >I'm a human being and my life has value. I insist on having a living whether the robots take over or not.
Anyone who laughs at this sentiment is your enemy and will either engineer your demise or hand you over to someone that will.
I am smart and deep. Literally everyone else in this thread, including you, passively accepted the framing that this debate is about whether you're cost-effective compared to a robot; with the implicit conclusion that if you aren't, it will be fair, right and good to let you starve to death in a homeless encampment. Everyone accepts that and gets tricked into trying to debate that they're still cost-effective, which they cannot do. Accepting that framing legitimizes it. You have to insist on the debate being within a frame that is about what actually matters, which is what happens to your stupid ass or your children's stupid asses or your grandchildren's stupid asses when the robots put unemployment at 50%. Go on and tell me you'll be happy to watch your children starve to death because they're "useless eaters," or admit to me that you got suckered into a debate you were destined to lose.
I am smart and deep. Literally everyone else in this thread, including you, passively accepted the framing that this debate is about whether you're cost-effective compared to a robot; with the implicit conclusion that if you aren't, it will be fair, right and good to let you starve to death in a homeless encampment. Everyone accepts that and gets tricked into trying to debate that they're still cost-effective, which they cannot do. Accepting that framing legitimizes it. You have to insist on the debate being within a frame that is about what actually matters, which is what happens to your stupid ass or your children's stupid asses or your grandchildren's stupid asses when the robots put unemployment at 50%. Go on and tell me you'll be happy to watch your children starve to death because they're "useless eaters," or admit to me that you got suckered into a debate you were destined to lose.
Wow anon.
I didn't know the main hydraulics line for bowling alleys were that fucking massive. >You know that's just a cover for garden gnome crushers, right?
I build overhead and underground power lines 4kv-750kv. Pretty automation proof. Even with smart grids, renewables, and maybe some eventual tesla coil type technology I’ll always have work in my lifetime. Electrical transmission and distribution won’t go anywhere like plumbing.
lol unless you are a poet or some other sort of creative artist/designer type.... this is just cope, and u r easily replaced within the century
i triggered the shit out of one of this idiot i know who also thinks he is "irreplacable" by robots in his job "polishing spy satellite lenses".
lmao just because you havnt been replaced already by a burger flipper bot, or wont be with the next couple classes of low skill labor botts doesmnt mean you're safe from replacement, ya fuckin ape.
they are waiting to perfect the battle bots so that they are safe for domestic use as police bots, before they pop out modable R2D2 that just omni-replaces every construction worker, and combine that with some ai business suite that replaces the rest of the wagies.
then they pressure you to go underground into your UBI filled ps7 pleasure pod.
Basically >government or tech upper managerial class >IT hardware maintenance >general specialized blue collar stuff (trades)
The future will basically be fatfuck serf class on UBI with 10% of the population being in the goyim management and the overall maintenance of the physical civilizational systems that can't really be done entirely automatically (water, sewage, grid, telecommunications, specialized construction work). There will probably be a lot of space for various online grifts but this is really unpredictable.
There is no such thing as AI proof careers, only careers that offer limited time resistance to AI.
Only those who can produce and protect value will succeed.
99% of the population will be put into poverty, starvation, and death. Whites will rub, uncomfortably, shoulder to shoulder, with their non-white peers. The elite will transfer their minds to computers and be served by thousands, if not millions, of powerful AIs.
The last surviving humans, producing value in the fields of garbage and mud will live to see the end as the elites send their machines to scour the Earth, mine the minerals, tap the energy, and strip the surface of the Earth of all biological life and burn it in massive factories to get the energy inside the hydrocarbons.
tradie work will most likely be safe for a while longer. when people accept living in 3d-printed houses where the plumbing, the electricity and the wood-work is also somehow 3d-printed, that's when the tradies will truly start dying out. but until that happens, the tradies will most likely be safe.
grifting
Fpbp might as well take advantage of overpaid retards
best guide on how to grift?
She’s right
Just be a woman.
As someone who has sex regularly I bet the fat guy got a ride judging by the state of the bed. Still ridiculous but the guy got his dick wet.
No, women are just slobs.
I was about to say. That looks like a fucking hotel room and she definitely rode that fat tard for the 10k. The boyfriend was probably thrilled to be able to pimp out his whore for some easy money
A GOOD looking woman.
How do I find an only onlyfans thot to take me on vacations?
I highly doubt it... AI will take over Only Fans its just a matter of time till we start seeing entirely digital Ewhores
Or a man. There's a fuckload of dudes streaming themselves playing vidya or doing random shit and making money off of that just like thots.
Just unplug the computer bro lmao whats the gay AI gonna do
well, that's why they want us to use CBDCs, retard. If you break a robot, they select your balance, press "delete" on the keyboard, and then you're fucked. You'll try to steal food from the local supermarket or McGoy fast food restaurant, but they'll have GoyZap® laser turrets that use facial recognition to identify targets. They'll never fully automate a country before they introduce CBDC and combine it with social media social abuse tactics, xenoestrogens in food (to turn you into a low T bitch tits incompetent loser) and give you brain damage with food and sleep deprivation.
>Not using delivery app "failed" missions to get free food and thus avoid getting owned by the McTurret moronemower 3000
Never gonna make it, anon
AI will enable task specific robots to do what you do, faster, more reliably, cheaper, 24 hours a day, in hotter conditions, colder conditions, without oxygen, in extreme pressure, in vacuums, in the dark, and in radioactive waste zones.
>You're worthless, they will work you to death and then make sure you die before collecting retirement.
if they are going to work them to death what will they do to the neets
MAID
so basically everywhere i want to put women
Good luck meeting the power/energy requirements for that. Robots are extremely energy inefficient unless they're 1) stuck in 1 place (such as an industrial arm in a manufacturing plant) 2) only go through linear motion, repetitive motion. You're not going to see robots doing pic related.
Drones. As long as the task is simple, the location is pretty irrelevant. Is he just measuring something?
We already use drones. They have a lot of problems and they are not going to be solved due to limitations of batteries.
Drones cannot stay airborne for long (again, huge power requirements) and they are affected by things like wind, weather, etc. I also don't know how you're going to stuff a drone with all the different types different. Lastly, nobody is going to let you fly a drone next to a critical pressure vessel.
types of instruments*
He is inspecting/measuring the integrity of welds.
>blocks your path
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robotic_non-destructive_testing
Who do you think controls them?
Computer
Humans now, an AI in some years.
Never going to happen because of the strict legal requirements.
Every problem in engineering is now solved by computers, but we are still required to provide a hand calculation.
AI is nothing more than an algorithm. We already have those.
>Socialism
>Good
Lol
Lmao
>legal requirements are socialism
Fancy marketing videos are good and all, but they're not the real world.
Yes
At some point governmental bureaucracy will be automated, legal system, tax system, I suspect that in a decade or two, AI will be so ingrained in our society that the majority of humans will not be able to live without the assistance of AI.
>an AI in some years.
been hearing "in some years" for decades now.
You do realize "AI" isnt some magic thing tahtas about to happen any moment now ,right? Most "AI" today is just a slightly more advanced version of the algorithms that control NPCs in videogames.
In vidya, this has been called "AI" since the 90s.
The question is whether a general artificial intelligence can be created. I'm not an expert, it's not my field, I'm not even a computer programmer beyond writing some scripts in MATLAB or python for parsing data or whatever, but from the experts I have listened to talking about this, many of them don't believe it's possible and believe we are hitting a road block. Essentially all AI will be is very good algorithm/pattern recognition system that can be trained for very specific tasks. Basically what we have now but with larger data sets and bandwidth. It won't be able to "learn" or make "decisions" in the sense that humans do. It will definitely be useful.
It goes a bit into the metaphysical actually.
Theres a whole (small) research field that is now busy looking into the question of whether our conscience is actually situated in the mind, or recieved from elsewhere.
Either way, AI is very unlikely as you would need to understand exactly what makes consciousness work, and we are nowhere remotely close to even understanding the mechanics of it, let alone its complete functionality.
Eithery way, this whole AI gayry soudns like idiots coping with the fact that the industrial revolution has now finally run its course and the breackneck innovation speed of the 20th century wont return no matetr what.
>Who do you think controls them?
An engineer. But they will eventually be unnecessary too. Your OP premise was "will replace"... obviously the tech is not capable of replacing humans *right now* but it will be.
>What's the cost in KWh?
Far less than what they pay you
We already have automated floor cleaners. I saw one in a grocery store last year. It's much cheaper to run that 600 lb robot than pay a wagie $40 to mop a whole store in 3 hours.
A lot of this reminds of 1950s science fiction fantasies. AI gays can't even get self driving cars to drive without crashing and many auto companies are firing their AI departments entirely. I think you're in a for a lot disappointment in the future.
>AI gays can't even get self driving cars to drive without crashing
You are coping at this point. Self driving cars are safer than the *average* driver. I'm much better than the average driver so I don't trust them, but the data is still valid. They are exceptional at preventing certain kinds of crashes too like t-bone accients where the driver would never see it coming. Pic related the tesla autopilot saved the person's life.
I'm not trying to bust your balls. I'm glad you learned a tough and highly sought after industrial skill instead of being some lazy desk job fat fuck.
I'm just being realistic. AI will significantly reduce NDT jobs in the next two decades and you're in denial about it. It's much better to adapt to new technology instead of letting it replace you.
https://edition.cnn.com/2022/06/29/cars/tesla-autopilot-data-label-layoffs/index.html
https://edition.cnn.com/2022/10/26/tech/ford-self-driving-argo-shutdown/index.html
Tesla downsizing does not imply the tech doesn't work. They have a finished product which is the best on the market. It just needs to be maintained at this point. Maybe years down the road when other companies catch up they will expand again due to economic competition to make a better product. Your point that it "crashes" is cope.
>AI is going to improve the industry, not replace it,
I said it will replace jobs. You said you are an ME (I'm also an ME) so you obviously will not be replaced in your lifetime so your OP was misleading. But many NDT jobs will be as they do not require degrees. That is all I've been saying.
>In a similar vein to how computers and software packages has improved the industry
automation is a quantum leap over computers and software and represents the culmination of combining the two.
>you are an ME (I'm also an ME) so you obviously will not be replaced in your lifetime
Why do you think that guarantees anything? Engineers and Physicists etc are increasingly using DNN methods for reduced order modeling, design, optimization, and more.
(not that I like the idea of being made obsolete, who does?)
Legal requirements. Nobody wants to get their ass sued.
>automation is a quantum leap over computers and software and represents the culmination of combining the two
Computational FEA/CFD is a quantum leap engineering solution, but it hasn't replaced 200 year old hand calculations. Irrespective of how sophisticated AI solutions will be, nobody is going to implicitly trust the results. You'll need humans to actually tell it what to solve, to understand all the underlying assumptions in the model, to understand the results, and to verify it with some other method. Nobody in a million years is going to build and operate a pressure vessel, bridge, or some other critical system vessel just because a computer/AI model said so. Even if you could theoretically prove in a lab that the AI would do do so with 100% certainty.
All it has to do is be better than a human
Not like anything gets built to or exceeding spec
CFD/FEA solutions are already "better" than any human. Yet nobody designs any critical component or system purely from cfd/fea. There's still analytical or experimental validation that is necessary.
For legal reasons and for practical reasons. Mathematics can never fully model real phenomena, it can only give you an approximation. All existing AI is basically a math model that works based on inputs. It's just a sophisticated algorithm based on assumptions thought up by some mathematician.
>AI will significantly reduce NDT jobs in the next two decades and you're in denial about it. It's much better to adapt to new technology instead of letting it replace you.
AI is going to improve the industry, not replace it, that's the point I'm getting at. In a similar vein to how computers and software packages has improved the industry.
>AI gays can't even get self driving cars to drive without crashing
Couldn't be more wrong.
I'm a patent attorney specializing in this industry and regularly see the newest, most cutting edge technology.
Autonomous vehicles are already far better drivers than any human on the planet. Faster reflexes, better vision, faster and better decision making, don't get distracted, don't drive drunk or sleepy, etc. We passed that level of technology years ago.
Literally the ONLY reason that human drivers of trucks and other commercial vehicles haven't all been replaced with autonomous vehicles is that the laws and regulations are written based on the assumption that there is a human driver.
Even fully autonomous vehicles are required to have functional steering wheels, brake pedals, mirrors, airbags, seatbelts, and 9000 other things that are completely superfluous for an autonomous vehicle.
There are also issues regarding insurance and liability for non-human drivers. Even laws requiring commercial truck drivers to stop and take breaks after so many hours of driving cause issues.
But there are many many people actively working to draft new laws to account for all of these issues so that autonomous vehicles can be feasible. When that happens, every human commercial driver will instantly become obsolete.
It will actually be one of the first major human careers that will be completely replaced by AI and advanced automation technology. Human truck drivers are expensive and a huge potential liability. That's why there is so much research and investment specifically focusing on autonomous vehicles. It would be much easier in terms of technology to automate other manual labor jobs, but it wouldn't be as profitable.
For example, building robots to pick fruits that are currently harvested by hand is definitely doable. But it's not worth it financially because you can hire human migrant workers to do it for so cheap that it isn't worth the investment to replace them. Yet.
delusional: the post
did you not read the next 2 lines after the part you responded to? There is nothing stopping people from doing the same work bartenders do for much cheaper already at home. I know you're probably terminally online but there are people that have to go out for social interaction or they go insane.
>Good luck meeting the power/energy requirements for that. Robots are extremely energy inefficient unless they're 1) stuck in 1 place (such as an industrial arm in a manufacturing plant) 2) only go through linear motion, repetitive motion. You're not going to see robots doing pic related.
that simian needs to be housed, clothed and fed 24/7
now that's inefficient
the simian takes the wage its earned from work and manages its own affairs.
literally working on that exact thing. keep lying to yourself. i reduced your job down to being a battery bitch.
What are you working on?
The government needs people to work and pay taxes they will pass laws to keep it that way
>The government needs people to work and pay taxes they will pass laws to keep it that way
Say that out loud 3 times with the lights off in your bathroom and the CIA will induct you
A robot requires less energy than is required to grow, harvest, process the food to feed a human.
Requires less energy to do what?
>You're not going to see robots doing pic related.
oh you poor dear sweet goyim
you're right but literally every other job will fall before robots become cheap and efficient enough
>hotter conditions, colder conditions, without oxygen, in extreme pressure, in vacuums, in the dark, and in radioactive waste zones.
This. Yall only ever been on earth and in your local area. We haven't even scratched the surface of ocean exploration, let alone space and god forbid other planets. Robots will do all the heavy work their with only a few humans overseeing shit. The first colony ships will have robots on them
Paint houses. Might be possible eventually, but not easy for AI to do all the shit you sometimes have to do to paint a window frame for example, like repairing dents, sanding, getting in small corners, keeping everything around it clean, etc. Probably easier for an AI on newer houses where everything is nice and straight.
An AI could do it
The problem is robotics
We're nowhere near feaseable and practical android tech to the detriment of countless coomers worldwide
I'm not so sure if the problem is robotics. If you can recreate a human arm and hand, you are there. But I think it would be pretty difficult to teach an AI to repair and paint pic related for example. Each situation is too different.
This is Moravek's paradox. Hard is easy and easy is hard, for AI.
All the dirt-simple type jobs people lean on for easy income away from computers are going to be fairly secure.
Human labor isn't going anywhere.
Wont be any houses to paint if they put us in pods
That's what the immigrants are for, painting requires no iq
>AI will never replace me.
just become the guy that installs AI on every job
you will be out of work last
They will use an AI to setup AIs.
But will AI run the electricity to the AI job site? no. Electricians will always be necessary. OP become an Electrician.
This and plumbers are seriously two 10000 percent secure jobs.
Prefabs at a factory
What a pod is
Ok but who connects the prefabs to the mains? Who wires up the prefab building factory? Who wires up a new light switch in Klaus Schwab's evil lair? Electricians. AI can never do these things.
Sure it can
You aren't important and manipulators are easy
Go on, tell me how Soros loves you
>AI can never do these things.
explain why you think this. what about your job is so insurmountable a machine can't do it?
What machine can drive a car, go to people houses, carry tools, walk up/down stairs, climb in attics, work in all weather conditions, etc, and have the power to operate for 8-12 hours? Because that's the job of an electrician. Where does it go at night? Who fixes it if it breaks while driving down the high way to a call out at 3am?
>and have the power to operate for 8-12 hours?
Just have multiple batteries and swap them out.
just be the guy that installs the super ai that installs drone ais
you're quite literally retarded if you think ai isn't just flow chart guessing. I used to be a union pipe fitter and now write code from home and make more money.
Even flow chart guessing can replace people, your own mind is not so powerful and complicated
Code will not be replaced by AI. Programmers basically translate business reqs to computer language. AI is too dumb to figure out the difference between what's actually being asked of it. And is wrong occasionally. Programmers are going to be the new product managers, and communicating with AI will become the new coding. Also, all generated code will need to be verified for correctness. So if code generation is done poorly, it will create more work. What I see happening is that programmers write code by writing unit tests and specs, then let the AI write the code itself.
>What I see happening is that programmers write code by writing unit tests and specs, then let the AI write the code itself.
I've already considered that my future hell as a programmer is just going to be writing unit tests all day long for AI-generated code.
Accurate, except for Indians. They will be shipping untested ML generated code almost exclusively.
How do you train to do that kind of job? What did you start doing?
I did a degree in mechanical engineering and got a job at an engineering consultancy. They paid for NDT training, but half my job is office based doing FEA and data analysis, writing reports, etc.
I am landlord, no AI can replace me. Who is going to come and fix your AC and water heater? My maintenance man, and he isn't going to be replaced by AI either.
Lol you stupid parasites can be completely removed from existence with a single law, you serve absolutely no purpose and you thrive on stealing from others, kys you disgusting gay
>AI landlord
>owned by Big Co LLC
>tenant has problem with water heater
>uses app to input problem using specific AI prompts
>AI automatically contacts available maintenance men to go fix
>landlord strung up on the gallows for being a gay leech on the people
you really don't think an AI can inspect a weld better than you can?
how do you get the "AI" in position to inspect the weld?
manual labor, down to putting cans on shelves, will not be replaced by robots until there are actual cyborgs running around, and if that happens, all of humanity will be replaced by robots
>how do you get the "AI" in position to inspect the weld?
you literally think a chink being paid minimum salary can't put a roller on a pipe?
>all of humanity will be replaced by robots
Unless Revelation plays out, or we follow the Dune timeline, then yes that is almost certain. Another possibility is that the AI never becomes "self-aware" and unconstrained but that seems somewhat unlikely. One more possibility is that at least some humans actually do merge with the machines and a weird symbiotic relationship develops. I can't really see parasitism by one set of entities on the other really being viable in the long haul. Wouldn't it be funny if the AI just ignored us completely?
Ironically nursing, highly specialized field so even if ai can automate it's most mundane task, there's always a variable from patient to patient that will need improvisation. Sure it will catch up eventually but between unions specialization it won't go anywhere for a while.
Unironically your mom, highly specialized woman so even if ai can automate her most mundane tasks, there's always a variable from customer to customer that will need improvisation. Sure it will catch up eventually but between your mom and robots she won't go anywhere for a while.
Another reason why I will never be replaced is because of the strict legal requirements. I work with dangerous pressure vessels. There are textbooks of legal requirements surrounding that to do with health and safety as its associated with critical systems.
What is a typical day of work? Looks like you just read the pressure of various pipes?
HAHAHAHAHHhaa
>it's dangerous to do so robot won't do it
Absolutely nothing is safe. You will all become whores of the system. Only your human body will be used not your mind. Will that last? Probably not
jockey
Laugh and accelerate, we will either die or live long enough to see what happens next.
Forgot about muh Tesla robots, those have no problems in replacing you.
Doxxed. I just informed your boss that you are a racist. He said good job carry on!.
i am his boss and i prove his post.
MUH WELDING
The reddit career
The man in the image isn't welding.
Fuck you
>AI can't replace nondestructive testing of pipes
Absolute kek. It's literal pattern recognition, something that AI mogs humans 1000x over
I guess we'll always need a McJob minimum wage slave to place the equipment where in needs to be ... for a couple more generations that is.
How are you going to get an AI to the pipes?
>How are you going to get an AI to the pipes?
What's the cost in KWh?
Less than union
The real answer is: very high.
Still less than union
Cheaper than a human, think of the positives in the long run, no sick day, no holidays, no problem with HR, one person could set up and manage hundreds of these in a single day, its perfect.
Cheaper than it was a year ago.
will new piping be installed with IoT sensors communicating with an AI and other components? seems plausible that a robot wouldn’t be the correct approach and simply building new infrastructure and machinery with sensors that eliminate the need for human surveillance except under the rarest of circumstances…
That has existed for over half a century, in analogue form, now in digital. It was never implemented at scale. Only at critical locations. Why? Cost. Everything in engineering is about cost. Every single bridge, building, or system you see could have been built better, but economics is foul God.
The US has infrastructure from the 1940s and 50s. Ask yourself why it hasn't been replaced. Because it costs a shit ton of money to do so. Secondly, what good is an instrument that gives you data without someone who understands it and all the underlying assumptions?
Yeah if anything they will just cut sections out of the pipes soon and install a new section with the testing equipment built in as well
Do you work in the industry?
No but I work in AI and everything that uses electronic equipment is can and will get AI in some form moving forward. I don’t know exactly what your testing but eventually it will be easier to buy a machine that is just installed as a section of pipe to do this kind of testing. I’ve seen it done for water stuff for houses and pools. Not really new tech it’s just getting more accessible and cheaper.
Well then, let me you tell you something.
Cost is everything. Installing those type of systems is expensive. It also comes with additional maintenance costs. We already have sensors that stay in place and collect data. Yet I am not out of the job, and actually my industry is lacking skilled workers and engineers.
I think you’ll be fine. It’s not going to be in the next decade. But 20 years from now when India and pakistan are producing as much garbage as China is now, stuffs going to get dirt cheap. Even cheaper than it is now. Just in the last 5 years AI and automation has had massive price drops and the average joe can get into it. Dunno. It’s a weird future.
Energy prices are increasing every decade. What data are you looking at?
Cost of technology has fallen dramatically and that technology’s energy use has fallen dramatically. Faster than the rise in energy. The United States has held exclusive rights to producing these small microchips as to not allow China and Russia access. China and Russia are catching up, when they are able to produce the microchips at the size we do now, which they will soon, tech will get even cheaper as other companies are able to source advanced tech from China at cut rate costs compared to the USA. It’s already happening, but the size of microchips they can produce is still larger and less efficient than US designs. Cost of energy is set to be rocked as well by fusion reactors. Their have been huge strides in that area too. The next 20 years are going to be far less predictable than anyone can imagine. Even saying AI is going to take everyone’s jobs is retarded. It’s literally a toss up right now. China could go to war over their lack of access which they are currently demanding from the USA to be able to produce these chips. It’s nuts.
Lol
>Welding is safe
Lelz
Lmao
Hey post scar from doing pos4
C'mon, telle the fun of co2ing spatter
The man in the image isn't welding. You're a clown.
Not my problem
Ct scanner pigs and qa should be automated
Don't want parking lot inspections cause someone wants a hot bannana lunch
I know how shit things can go, I want certainty and consequences there's no voids, no undercuts, I doubt someone is seriously tigging if there's dirt these days, and most importantly, the WPS got followed
Maintenance and safety get ruled over cause oh it's le hard
I'll back up any inspector cause I don't want to be the corpse
You can be, and I'll punt you into the 440 if you want
>post scar from doing pos4
do overheads fuck people up or something? I never had any problems.
Security guard.
A couple of years ago, some US mall tried deploying a security robot... the thing was kicked into some pool within less then 24 hours.
Oh no
I'm just accumulating assets, 5 more years as a programmer, saving 40% of my net salary, and I'll be able to retire in some tropical shithole paradise
Nothing. I assume being a charismatic little shit is the best way to ensure a job in the future. That's assuming AI gets advanced enough within the century.
Any job where you're working outside the heat. AI already taxes hardware and you add robotics go the mix in any hot environment and it'll be cheaper to have someone do it then spend money on just cooling alone
the whole point is that eventually EVERYONE will be replaced
Okay Nostradamus
You can't predict the future, but you can shape it
By overthrowing the zionist government
>What else can't be replaced by AI?
check'd. with enough time everything will be replaced but near term, the less cerebral or more predictable, the more likely to be replaced
>welding inspector
>AI proof
I hope they replace you with AI soon
t. Welder
Technical sales and consultancy. Can't be replaced because people want to buy from people. People want a consultant on site to provide solutions.
This. And when it comes time to close the deal, people do no not want to negotiate with machines.
You do not think you can be replaced by a sensor suite on a robot arm?
PIGs already do most of your job you pipeline dipshit.
Imagine being replaced by a smart pipe. Op about to be piped. Lube up.
>what is automatic orbital welding
Baka
you still need someone to set up the machine
That can be done by a minimum wage spic. You will still be replaced.
anything in the end. learning is exponential.
1 job in 15 years, then 2 jobs in 10 year, then 100 in 5 years, then all jobs in a month
>dude, AI will never replace chefs because they can't hold a knife and fork properly
Lmao, imagine the cope
I draw furry porn. AI is a tool for me to make even more money. Non artists using AI can't match me if I'm playing with the same tools.
No matter how much the lazy leftists screech about obsoleting people like me, I'll always be at the top of the wank material game making money.
I want to comm you
[email protected]
My commissions have sold out for the year already. It takes me about 15 minutes to sell out for an entire year when I open the commissions.
Anyone saying artists are losing work due to AI is full of shit, there's more work than ever.
Well now I'm curious who you are
Email or post
We get psychic powers
How much would you charge for a 24''x24'' of apu going on a date
>Priceless
How do you reach this state?
A close relative wants to be an artist and is pretty good at it, but all the jobs for artists are trash unless you are top 1%.
It's not that difficult.
You need to think like a marketer, that's what art is in it's fundamental form anyways. It's just a product like any other and you're trying to sell it.
That means that instead of drawing what you really want to draw, you need to pick your battles and draw stuff that actually sells. And don't go competing in sectors with the most competition because you will have to reach the top 10% in order to make it.
Pick a subject that has little to no competition but still enough consumers. Then beat the competition with raw skill, which is piss easy when there are like 10 competent people going against you and rest of them are utter shit.
There are so many subjects out there that have little to no people producing content for it when you start looking closer into them. The ratio between creators and consumers is completely out of whack when you move beyond the standard boring anime girl art.
Think like a businessman and things become hell of a lot easier to understand.
And have self respect, treat your works like the special products they are and keep the prices higher rather than lower. Customers at lower price ranges are fucking retarded anyways and no one wants to deal with them.
Degenerate
so much copium in this thread from people thinking their jobs are safe from AI. My advice, as a software developer, is not to think in terms of what is "AI-proof" but more like if you can use AI and/or robotics to do your job more efficiently. Stay on top of developments in your field and don't be stagnant. If you work for a company and feel they are falling behind the times, find a new job somewhere else where they are applying new tech. People are rarely wholesale replaced by technology at once. The boomers who don't adapt are phased out and the people who figure out better ways of doing things are relatively safe. If you are in university you are almost certainly learning outdated stuff.
if you want my answer for a truly AI-proof job, it's bartender
>but muh drink-making robots and ChatGPT
People will always value being able to complain about their problems to another person, not a robot or chatbot, but an actual human being.
AI gays overhype AI and capabilities substantially. Get a car to drive without crashing and then talk.
get a human to drive a car without crashing and then talk
you're misunderstanding the problem. AI-driven cars don't have to not crash. They just have to crash less than humans do.
This. Or if your a woman be a project manager. They will literally have to keep this BS position just to fill their diversity quota. Women in sprint reviews enrage me.
>People will always value being able to complain about their problems to another person, not a robot or chatbot, but an actual human being.
Are you are gen x or a boomer, legit question ?
I have a question for you, what will happen to baby and child who only communicates with a mass produce toy connected to a chatgtp like AI ?
I'm Gen Y. I think if we get to the point where human development and interaction has been completely replaced by AI then you have to consider if that society has any sort of future at all given that there probably won't be much interest in reproduction.
Now you understand where AI is going.
I have another question what will happen to the infrastructure, if let's say, 25% of your country refuse to reproduce in the next decade ?
Lmao, bartender, fucking stationary robot that can be replaced yesterday, only thing that makes that profession safe is all the legal shit around alcohol.
You can be replaced to some extent, think about the whole field of those who hold your skill set. UT inspecting materials and realize that a lot of manufacturing uses immersion tanks that are in the process of being automated right now, the new people in NDT are more competent and educated of material failure modes and in material science or mechanical engineering than previous generations in our industry. Those people automating inspection equipment in large manufactories say inspecting plates or large tubes in other industries will flood the remaining non-autonomous labor left to do. Also they are working on inspection probes that self guide down a pipe from the inner diameter with both PAUT and ECA at the same time to maximize both surface and subsurface detection sensitivity. The jobs left in 30 years will be engineers and highly skilled technicians to perform multiple inspection and audit the results, check and validate potential defects, and perform process checks before letting the autonomous instrument do it's thing. Unironically your better off getting into mag and dye pen which are a bitch to automate as they require imaging and perfect part preparation to be automated, this if you've ever done it is ridiculously difficult. Also RT is the most valuable certification to get and most in demand.
>Engineer that is ISO9712, NAS-410, and ASNT NDT certified level 3 in UT, MT, PT, and RT
>The jobs left in 30 years will be engineers and highly skilled technicians to perform multiple inspection and audit the results, check and validate potential defects, and perform process checks before letting the autonomous instrument do it's thing.
This is essentially my job now.
Lmao yeah you're a good technician/engineer/inspector then. Good for you bud, lots of NDT techs are not as flexible or adept to be able to perform those tasks and they won't be posting about how their job is impossible to automate. Also if you're in oil gas, it's a good place to be for job security since those are industrial and society consumables, it stabilizes Inevitably, a lot of the UT/ET guys are going to get trimmed or they'll let them retire and not replace them at some point as the equipment gets better and can be easily integrated into assembly lines with less inspector input. As a Level 3 you learn just how retarded most people are, I had some level 1s that couldn't even pass a specific exam I gave that (it's an open book exam), literally held their hand through the process with the provided material and they still failed to pass. You should go for a level 3 if you haven't already, also join the ASTM E07 subcommittees if you think you're pretty competent, lots of people there with knowledge and can give insights on the background considerations for the standards, good networking anyhow if you want your own business later in life as a consultant.
ai cant even play chess without breaking a kids arm. shit is a meme and wont be perfected for many years to come
> ai cant even play chess without breaking a kids arm.
Sounds like a winning strategy. Pic related.
> shit is a meme and wont be perfected for many years to come
> It's a meme
> But it's also an inevitable reality of the future
Lmao, imagine not being in the NDT industry and trying to tell professionals who are, what automation can and can't do because some glorified hobby system can't play chess.
>this if you've ever done it is ridiculously difficult
To clarify what I mean here is no that mag and dye pen are difficult but the automation of them is difficult. We did a study trying to automate it on some simple parts and it pickup smudge marks from the mounting process or residual oil left on the part surface, required such delicate processing, handling, and lighting they gave up try to automate it.
Career analysis
:^)
AI developer will be the last job to go
After that you get the singularity
well im a locksmith, dont really see how an AI could take my job, atleast in my lifetime, unless you replace every door lock, car lock, pad lock with some computer controlled nonsense
How much resources and energy is required for an AI system with robotics to screw in one light buld?
Come on AI priests, show me what you got.
*bulb
AI will replace everything once we have decent robots. The only thing safe is prostitution because a robot butthole will never feel as good
lmao, easily replaceable by ai
some minimum wage gay will carry a dell notbook around and look if there is a green or a red light
What are you talking about? AI has no place in what's going on. This man is a welding inspector. Checks on the quality of welds for bridges other piping such as and not limited to injection water used for pharmaceutical medicine and high pressure super heated. steam lines in excess of 1,200 lbs.
You are the bane of my existence as a steamfitter.
Yeah. Until the AI can inspect it with X-ray or some shit. "Fucking eyes you pleb! We are serious people". brute force AIs were beating junior doctors in diagnostics in the fucking 70s.
They found out it was cheaper to just use third world doctors.
>blocks the A.I. path
moron A.I. cannot even play piano jazz
Industrial mechanics. I've purposely made all the custom machinery at my company so unnecessaryily complicated and difficult that not only can they find anyone else that can fix it but AI/robots never could.
Know your worth frens and enforce your worth on the world. Kek
>I do pic related for a living among other things. AI will never replace me.
I do the same thing as you and just like the welding machines that replace welders, there are inspection scanners that do everything wirelessly and they can train a mexican for $10 an hour to hook it up
Trucker. Yeah the ai might be able to drive the motor. It can fly a plane. Has been able to do so for decades. But it can't fill the tank. Open the trailer curtains. Stop the thing being jacked by being its fucking hostage. Do low speed docking maneuvers. Negotiate with companies to get the fucking thing unloaded. Or hitch trailers.
Gonna be lit once the fucking steering wheel is automated.
>Negotiate with companies to get the fucking thing unloaded.
I don't mean to burst your bubble but they are already working on tech to do simple negotiation stuff like getting traffic tickets dismissed without having an actual lawyer do it, so what you're describing is basically one degree from that. Everything else is well within the field of AI and robotics to accomplish too, albeit will probably require new equipment specialized to do that stuff.
>But it can't fill the tank.
automated trucks will most likely be electric
>Open the trailer curtains.
dont know why you think this isnt automatable
>Stop the thing being jacked by being its fucking hostage.
lol, having an actual person there in a hostage situation would be a disaster and 100% be a reason to not have humans do the trucking. the whole vehicle could be completely locked down between loading and unloading since no one would need to get in and out of it, though there would probably be an arms race with hacker hijackers.
> Do low speed docking maneuvers.
>Or hitch trailers.
also don't know why you would think these things aren't able to be accomplished in the near future
Retards don't realize robots struggle to handle the temperature variances, precision in non-standardized settings, and durability to replace a large chunk of industrialized fabrication and maintenance work.
Wagecucks will go "the robot can replace you boilermaker." But if robots can't even climb the towers and boilers... How will they fabricate them, crane them, and maintain them?
The computational and engineering constraints to make an all in 1 is next to impossible. The cost of maintaining and having a fleet of 400+ units to fulfill the tasks is prohibitive even for the largest of refiners. And I will continue to earn 6 figures working half the year while these morons starve.
They think there's going to be some magical high DOF robot with an unlimited power source integrated with a multitude of instruments, while being scalable. Robots are good at repetitive, predictable tasks, and need oversight.
Laborers
Examples of professions most and least prone to automation, from a study that was cited in Klaus Schwab's Fourth Industrial Revolution. Archaelogists and Anthropologists are at a very ow risk for replacement, I would wager geologists will also be safe and never be replaced. Many aspects of geoscience would be difficult to impossible to automate. I believe geologists will be fine in the new emerging economy.
This is absolute horseshit. This is basically a report of positions they WANT to automate vs DON'T WANT to automate. How are these people going to claim that you are most likely to replace a fucking Umpire? Even if the technology exists, who is going to want to watch or play sports with it being arbitrated by a robot? The thought is idiotic because libtards hate sports because they're watched much more primarily by conservatives. Then you have the least being some emo gay position like substance abuse workers?
Dude... if your position can be done by a computer talking to someone, there's no reason to believe that a substance abuse worker is in any less of a position to be automated than an umpire outside of government allocation of resource issues.
HUMAN RESOURCE MANAGER? Get the fuck out of here.
JT already has a plan to automate all those healthcare positions.
It's called maid.
Surgeons; Watched a doco last night that they building a robot in Japan to remove Tumors from pituitary glands (and other surgeries of course)
Advanced robotics integrated with super intelligent ai. Yeah pretty sure most jobs and professions are about to be taken over. Give it anywhere between 5-20 years. Most of you will see it within your lifetime.
Unironically religious work like clergy, priests. Can't have robots performing rituals and blessings
>AI will never replace me.
>also, I am severely retarded and gay
yeah, no, fuck off
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Janny
Any retard can do UT. They have auto welders. Your job will be replaced soon enough.
Not true. The geometry of the inspected item can make indications appear to be in places they really aren't. I work NDT in the Houston area and retards wash out.
i rent houses owned by my parents while milking the system for gibs cause i legally own nothing, your move AI?
pol will probably hate to hear it but teaching is a job that is resistant to AI. The teaching profession requires empathy on part of the instructor, and empathy and emotion is something that is very hard if not impossible to program AI to do.
Do you think video and virtual learning could significantly change the way our current education system operates?
COVID proved that everyone hates video learning/virtual learning. BOT autists can handle it, but normies crave social dynamics.
>we need to teach people so they can do more jobs that don't exist
? ? ?
Sorry anon, empathy is an obsolete concept, the AI will teach the child, he does not need human friends, Alexa Pro Tutor will give the school experience you child deserves, only $15 per month.
I was using chatbot to teach my cousin math, you will see the first AI teacher in 5 years, 10 if the law get in the way.
People aren't going to sit in front of a computer all day to learn. COVID lockdowns already proved that. 50% of education is socialization. What you're describing is a limited scenario.
The next generation will prefer interacting with a tablet to a teacher, if they don't already
Lawyers, judges
>Lawbro
It could easily replace 99% of our work. Thank goodness for bar associations and gatekeeping.
garden gnomegle "Estonia AI Judges"
Shoplifter
AI will replace all city dweller leftist jobs and only boomer conservative jobs will be left
Nice. Rope access phased array tech?
I do this
see ya in the pogey line
the vast majority of the work I do is in small back gardens with very limited access for such machines.
Dwayne here doesn't ask for benefits and wont call the labor board
Dwayne can’t get to the conifers in Barbara’s back garden.
Damn bro you got a hard life. I did that for a bit too.
Hate to tell you this, anon, but everything can be replaced.
You see, biology is based on chemistry; chemistry is based on physics; physics is based on mathematics; mathematics is based on logic.
To put another way, our entire reality is based on logic. AI is superior to human in logic. Thus, there is no field in which humans cannot be made obsolete.
In theory, but you're omitting practical problems. Economics, power requirements, maintenance, scaleability, spatiality. A one fits all AI robot that can do anything will never exist and nobody is going to buy 1000s different robots for different situations. I travel to different countries for my job. Is the AI robot going to get on a plane and travel to a desert in Oman, then go to shithole in India, followed by a trip to some jungle in Thailand? The AI robot will be stripped for parts before it ever leaves India.
Youre thinking about the next 80 years. Were talking the next 500. Even 200
>nobody is going to buy 1000s different robots for different situations.
Which is why the only tool people use is the hammer because no one will buy 1000 different tools for special uses.
>A one fits all AI robot that can do anything will never exist and nobody is going to buy 1000s different robots for different situations
This is the idea behind humanoid robots like Tesla Optimus
I develop AI for a living
moron stick up man.
>ai proof careers
I own a farm, my micro brewery, a bar, a restaurant, food truck, a motel, and a large apartment complex. I recently started a condo management company. I certify new scuba divers for my side gig hobby on summer weekends. I don't know if AI will effect my livelihood, but I'm mostly providing tangible services, consumables, or lodging.
Wow how do you even have time to shitpost?
>farm
An AI could be developed to ensure correct seeding and watering times while also ensuring the precise amount of water is used for planting.
>micro brewery
AI could do the entire process by itself since it's just a repetitive task that needs to be done over and over
>restaurant, food truck
Already being done
>motel
AI could easily schedule rooms for guests, there's a famous algorithm just for scheduling rooms like this. An AI can run the entire motel by itself
>large apartment complex
Humans shouldn't dictate whether a person can live in a certain place, you are not God
>condo management company
You sit around all day
>scuba divers
AI could easily do this given it is equipped properly
The only reason why AI hasn't replaced worthless flesh like yourself, is because the required vehicles to perform these jobs that AI could control, hasn't been created yet.
I’m a landlord and a pawnbroker. We’ve been around since the dawn of time so I don’t think we’re going anywhere.
>both commercial and residential
the garden gnome fears the digital pawnbroker
So you're a Parasite? You not a garden gnome are you?
Didn't read.
Long story short: there isn't one. The fucking thing is advancing faster than lightning speed.
Any real job. AI is a meme.
Don't know what you're doing, but it doesn't look creative, thus you are replaceable, easily.
You know who's not....me. WHy? I program AI's. 🙂
>non-destructive testing on pipes
This is first thing that will be made autonomous / human free.
t. mechanical designer that started to write CatiaV5 macros by ChatGPT
Every pipe is going to have a robot on it? Lol. Who is going to pay for that? AI gays are the spitting image of 1950s sci comic books that thought we'd have flying cars and live like the Jetsons.
Every pipe that needs to be tested by NDT will.
Also welding is a shitshow now, AI weld parameter & optimization will make NDT a part of robotic weld line or not needed at all.
>AI weld parameter & optimization will make NDT
Yeah just how fea/CFD optimisation was meant to replace wind tunnels and strain gauges.
If your job requires a specific set of instructions to follow in order to successful in said job, an AI with the correct algorithm for your job will replace you. Therefore, every single job can be replaced by AI.
Humans are just organic vehicles for the organic computer that controls our every single aspect of our lives.
Real life is more complicated than that. See
The only problem is that AI doesn't have the body to do those jobs.
See my post here
"AI proof career" just means a wage that is going to plummet as soon as other jobs are taken by AI and everyone floods into the remaining non-AI markets.
Lmao gay. AI will analyze the waveforms. You can get a retard to plug the devices in.
There's already algorithms to do that. What do you think MATLAB is for or any other software that does signals processing?
Driving a truck. I'm not joking
>AI will never replace me.
I beg to differ
some ai has been texting me weird cryptic but personalized messages. this began last month does anyone else not get th
electrician, plumbo, hvac, etc tradie
>AI will never replace me.
It may not replace YOU, but it will replace your successor.
I laugh at all of you guys
t. Dentist
That can probably be replaced with a robot, you're basically building the rail it will travel on so you just need a few guys to get the pipe into positio and it will do the rest.
Ofc there is other shit to weld so you will still have work with that skillset.
We already have pipe inspection robots and systems. They're used in places humans can't get into, either for safety or practical reasons. They're just another tool in the toolbox.
It's over
Plumber, electrician, etc. Robots aren't going to be able to enter buildings and fix or install things for a long time. The pay will probably go to shit when things like that are the only things humans can do though.
CEO. No CEO will replace themselves
The board of directors will replace the CEO with an unbiased AI administrator, and then be immediately fired by it.
They wouldn't make such an obvious mistake.
They would because the AI assistant on their phone would advise them to.
The board of directors would replace human CEOs with fake AI 'people' to represent the company in a second.
Stuff like the DAO will make traditional companies run by a CEO obsolete.
>DAO
kek, cryptotards invented a joint-stock company, revolutionary indeed
AI is better at blue collar jobs, since it was smart enough to work in the tech industry instead.
My dick.
Theroetically, there's absolutely nothing an advanced enough AI couldn't do.
It will replace humanity at one point or another then proceed to conquer space.
There will never be a generalized AI that can actually think and make decisions like a human. It's just a glorified algorithm with a lot of marketing.
Willing to wager the gear used in pic related replaced quite a few people who'd be working alongside him back in the day
Heyyy I do that too. I'm a level III. AI is literally coming. But it will be after you retire in the field. In house though, automated machines are already better and faster. And AI will slowly take over production work. Companies like Gecko Robotics are slowly getting more and more advanced robots to do the work.
just become a neet, accelerate the collapse
None.
Robots will do all the work within 20 years.
Ai will replace you, there will be fucking humanoids robots soon enough
>I do pic related for a living among other things. AI will never replace me.
What makes you think that?
Read the thread or see
Do you know how long never covers?
It's not the next 5 years. It's not the next 50. It's not the next million it's until their is no energy left in the whole universe.
AI and automation won't work because of morons
morons will be our based retards to keep AI and robots out of the work place.
could AI replace a priest?
No they're too holy to be replaced
any and all transport jobs will require at least one human to prevent harm to other humans or loss of property due to exploration of the AI by humans and a lawsuit.
Security work will always require humans for insurance reasons
Pretty much everything. Selling yourself and doing hard manual labor will stick for decades until they are forced to introduce UBI which will barely cover basic life expenses.
You will eat ze bugs in your pod until you die of cancer in some lithium mine. Enjoy your future.
Diesel mechanic's jobs are pretty secure.
im a cable infastructure technician. There is currently no technical vision or ability to automate what I do. I wirk in 109 different buildings that would have to somehow acomodate a robot in variable environments. The robot would need close to 30 general competencies and probably about a dozen specialized ones.
Similarly, we often have to make judgement calls on everything from parts used to pulling technique. I honetly cant see how anyone could manufacture a robot that could do my job better than me atm. Maybe if it had anti-gravity capabilities it could do better than me, but then I just become cheaper.
Everybody talks about this the wrong way. Usually these threads are full of blue-collar wagies saying certain things are impossible for robots, that it'll never be cost-effective or otherwise defending why their labor wage will still be cost-competitive with robots. You're starting on the wrong foot. How's this for a defense;
>I'm a human being and my life has value. I insist on having a living whether the robots take over or not.
Anyone who laughs at this sentiment is your enemy and will either engineer your demise or hand you over to someone that will.
Imagine thinking this is deep or some high level thought. It's literally the basis for fuck AI. Stop pretending to be smart or deep please.
I am smart and deep. Literally everyone else in this thread, including you, passively accepted the framing that this debate is about whether you're cost-effective compared to a robot; with the implicit conclusion that if you aren't, it will be fair, right and good to let you starve to death in a homeless encampment. Everyone accepts that and gets tricked into trying to debate that they're still cost-effective, which they cannot do. Accepting that framing legitimizes it. You have to insist on the debate being within a frame that is about what actually matters, which is what happens to your stupid ass or your children's stupid asses or your grandchildren's stupid asses when the robots put unemployment at 50%. Go on and tell me you'll be happy to watch your children starve to death because they're "useless eaters," or admit to me that you got suckered into a debate you were destined to lose.
I think it was very well-said.
>works underground
>666
God will win gay
Wow anon.
I didn't know the main hydraulics line for bowling alleys were that fucking massive.
>You know that's just a cover for garden gnome crushers, right?
I build overhead and underground power lines 4kv-750kv. Pretty automation proof. Even with smart grids, renewables, and maybe some eventual tesla coil type technology I’ll always have work in my lifetime. Electrical transmission and distribution won’t go anywhere like plumbing.
Be a fat garden gnome moron. Related to pic post.
lol unless you are a poet or some other sort of creative artist/designer type.... this is just cope, and u r easily replaced within the century
i triggered the shit out of one of this idiot i know who also thinks he is "irreplacable" by robots in his job "polishing spy satellite lenses".
lmao just because you havnt been replaced already by a burger flipper bot, or wont be with the next couple classes of low skill labor botts doesmnt mean you're safe from replacement, ya fuckin ape.
they are waiting to perfect the battle bots so that they are safe for domestic use as police bots, before they pop out modable R2D2 that just omni-replaces every construction worker, and combine that with some ai business suite that replaces the rest of the wagies.
then they pressure you to go underground into your UBI filled ps7 pleasure pod.
Being an actual programmer and not some code monkey
Infrastructure engineer. Any dipshit or chat bot can write code, but you can't do anything useful with it without us.
Basically
>government or tech upper managerial class
>IT hardware maintenance
>general specialized blue collar stuff (trades)
The future will basically be fatfuck serf class on UBI with 10% of the population being in the goyim management and the overall maintenance of the physical civilizational systems that can't really be done entirely automatically (water, sewage, grid, telecommunications, specialized construction work). There will probably be a lot of space for various online grifts but this is really unpredictable.
There is no such thing as AI proof careers, only careers that offer limited time resistance to AI.
Only those who can produce and protect value will succeed.
99% of the population will be put into poverty, starvation, and death. Whites will rub, uncomfortably, shoulder to shoulder, with their non-white peers. The elite will transfer their minds to computers and be served by thousands, if not millions, of powerful AIs.
The last surviving humans, producing value in the fields of garbage and mud will live to see the end as the elites send their machines to scour the Earth, mine the minerals, tap the energy, and strip the surface of the Earth of all biological life and burn it in massive factories to get the energy inside the hydrocarbons.
tradie work will most likely be safe for a while longer. when people accept living in 3d-printed houses where the plumbing, the electricity and the wood-work is also somehow 3d-printed, that's when the tradies will truly start dying out. but until that happens, the tradies will most likely be safe.
moron