>ai kills artists
>HAHAHAH GET FUCKED YOU PRESTIGIOUS TARDS
>gtp4
>NOOOOOO THINK ABOUT OUR JOBS
kek you get what you fucking deserve
>ai kills artists. >HAHAHAH GET FUCKED YOU PRESTIGIOUS TARDS. >gtp4. >NOOOOOO THINK ABOUT OUR JOBS
>ai kills artists
>HAHAHAH GET FUCKED YOU PRESTIGIOUS TARDS
>gtp4
>NOOOOOO THINK ABOUT OUR JOBS
kek you get what you fucking deserve
>ai kills artists
TOTAL PAINTPIG DESTITUTION
Unless you work on an oil derrick, you're going to lose your job too.
seethe harder inkcel
nta. I don't have a job, homosexual.
Funny really, just earlier I had to do some government paper work, The male clerk asked for my job as part of the thing. I said I'm unemployed, he was clearly shocked that a sharply dressed young man like myself don't have a job. You see, I don't need one.
Now if he instead asked if I have a girlfriend, then that would fuck with me mentally.
How do you get income anon?
i have been pretending to be severely autistic and mentally disabled since i was 11 years old so that my parents will take care of me forever without demanding i get a job
Whatever benefits this gets you, it is not worth the cost. You have learned to be helpless, and the mental retardation is not faked it is real.
Show us your fit.
ALBERTABROS
WE WON
>Unless you work on an oil derrick,
And that can't be automated either?
When you can automate tradies you can automate everything. When you can automate everything we're all dead already.
2027 give or take is the market estimate of when this happens.
If all work can be automated then nobody needs to work anymore.
That's exactly it; not all work can be automated (yet)
And I'll do my part to get us there. I'd love to retire in my 40s or 50s because we've got basic robots and AIs running everything. Fuck if I care anymore, this world is not worth breaking my back or brain for.
Not a knower.
Based AI, fuck those inkcels and people doing overpriced commissions in social media who call themselves artists
pic source please?
ARU BEST GIRL
>3/45
Sigh. I wish AI could take my job but unfortunately being a software developer actually requires skills that are not trivial to automate.
Keep crying, jobless art tranny.
Are you really too dense to see where the trend is going? Expecting the graph to magically level off into an s-curve just before it reaches your level?
Yes. The model is only as good as its training data and we don't have an infinite amount of good data to train the GPT versions.
its now owned by microsoft and microsoft has an obvious large supply of complex source code to a variety of projects.
>AI trained on microsoft code
that's as clear a case of GIGO as you'll ever see
It's like you people can't see the forest for the trees. This is the reason microsoft bought github in the first place. You didn't think microsoft just needed a place to score their source code, did you? It gives them an absolutely massive amount of code to train on, but that isn't the real trick. The reason they keep giving it away for free is so they have an ever growing dataset to train on. Every year millions and millions of lines of code are added and it isn't going to stop any time soon. Every time they train a new model it will be with more than it had before. If you think it's just going to stop before it gets to your level then you have a rough road ahead of you.
>The model is only as good as its training data
>Microsoft buys github
>Microsoft buys OpenAI
I think they have enough data.
>Expecting the graph to magically level off into an s-curve just before it reaches your level?
It might, yeah
Bet Garry Kasparov thought that the first time he beat Deep Blue
lol
Wake me up when ai can show such soulful emotions with shitty art.
he would have beaten it again if he didn't crack under the pressure after he lost once. that's also quite an apples and oranges comparison.
>he would have beaten it again if he didn't crack under the pressure
While I agree, that's not the point. Look at what ensued: engines continued to improve, and improve, and improve. By the mid-late 2000s, chess engines being ran on Pentiums could beat the best chess players.
programming will be automated away in 2 years
Programming is already automated to shit with all the make-a-web-app boilerplates around
Pajeet tier Java applications? Yes. Boilerplate coding is easy enough.
Actual software architecting or stuff like Linux kernel drivers? No, that will stay.
GPT(-4) just spews out stuff it can memorize online. That's why they also test in on standarized stuff. Give it something more sophisticated which requires adaption and it usually will fall apart.
I honestly expected it to do better. small, self-contained coding challenges like that should be really easy for gpt-4. devbros can rest comfy for a few more years
it can't even 100% the easy problems? wtf?
Artsisters what the fuck is this ? These coder chuds trying to help other chuds
Uh huh
>picrel
Artists like this are subhuman penmonkeys who feel challenged by AI art because, fundamentally, they are too stupid to do almost anything else.
I'm a decades-long drawcuck and this shit is really only ever something that wastebin tier programmers say. These are the same delusional homosexuals who think that grinding leetcode for 30 minutes a day and landing a job opened by some tech-illiterate boomer are the same as being an actual software developer.
Writing good shit from the ground up, as well as working on actual development teams, requires far more planning, forethought, mental acuity, and problem-solving skills than lurking in your dimly lit grotto with and drawfagging for 12 hours a day. It's almost as if they don't understand that being an artist is, like programming, applying design principles rather than churning out disposable coomer trash on Patreon and Gumroad.
I welcome AI art because it cuts out the tedious bullshit and just lets me create, which is what I would really rather do than spend my life . Luddites get the rope.
She’s a software engineer at riotgames
Who is she? source.
Thanks.
>"I'm speshuuul!"
your cope and lack of understanding of art is delicious
And the flood of AI images will make people stop caring for them. Let’s hope it stops at that
PYW
12oz mouse is my favourite anime. I don't think you need more than afternoon of drawing experience to recreate that
Yeah, AI just exponentially increases in ability every couple of months. Think of how quickly all of it took off within the past couple of years, it's not a question of if but when. Yeah this iteration isn't up to par but for how long until it is?
>Yeah, AI just exponentially increases in ability
>exponentially increases
so do the hardware requirements
guess why GPT-4 is behind a paywall and why it generates slow as fuck
guess why every chip company is furiously researching faster chips
wake me up in 5 years when they have chips meant for AI
this is the limit
> so do the hardware requirements
> guess why GPT-4 is behind a paywall and why it generates slow as fuck
> guess why every chip company is furiously researching faster chips
>he doesn't know about organoid computers
Educate yourself:
https://hub.jhu.edu/2023/02/28/organoid-intelligence-biocomputers/#:~:text=Johns%20Hopkins%20researchers%20tout%20the,Bloomberg%20School%20of%20Public%20Health.
>being a software developer actually requires skills
Any skill you can be trained to learn, the AI can the same. The jobs of the future will be AI prompting and nothing more. Like monkeys talking to the machine
>3/45
Without even being specifically made for that task
Can any human get this score while getting the same scores it got in the other tasks? What about when someone decides to fine-tune the whole fucking model for that task? Then you cry?
If something has label as fancy as "Artificial Intelligence", people automatically expect it to wipe their ass and solve world hunger.
idk about world hunger, but yes I DO expect a waifua android to wipe my ass and i want it now. not tomorrow, not after breakfast, NOW
Yeah, seems like Hollywood did a good job of tarnishing the meaning of those words and people's understanding of it...
That shit scored all of that on all of those tasks without being specifically made for any of them, no single human is capable of attaining that in a single sitting, maybe not even in a lifetime taking the tests separately? And now everyone has that in the palm of their hands... But don't worry, it only got a 3/45... kek
Unless your job requires creating actual new things then you're just further along than a burger flipper. If programming was hard then you wouldn't have so many braindead dipshits majoring in it and actually getting jobs.
Tick tock homosexual
Anon, I think you need some glasses 'cause you're clearly nearsighted.
How does it compare with GPT 3.5 is the real question.
Wait it can't get 100% on easy problems? lmao what fuck I thought this was supposed to good at searching stack overflow
y-yeah guys, those leetcode hards are a walk in the park
LC hards are intentionally contrived puzzles. Don't take them so personally.
Artsisters, our response?
sane answer codemonkeys used: it's still early. once big tech has fed it enough good data you're toast
>fed it enough good data
What good data
the one gullible programmers think makes them irreplaceable
>"y-you don't get my job"
im kekking like never before because that's the same bs your type flung at artfags, you deserve each other
>Leetcode (hard)
As if it means anything. Even simple dfs algorithm rarely gets to be implemented irl.
>ai kills artists
It never happened, if anything it made 0 skill trannies claiming to be artists seethe and cope and open a new grift of trying to pass AI output as art and charging for it, good artists are still alive, well and making a fortune on nsfw content
>gpt4
Doesn't kill good programmers, as in people who come up with novel solutions or that excel at managing complexity
In both cases it just kills a whole layer of bottom feeders, only ones who are massively at risk are pajeets
>if anything it made 0 skill trannies claiming to be artists seethe and cope and open a new grift of trying to pass AI output as art and charging for it
What's the problem with that? Is there some kind of rule or law that states someone can't become wealthy and prosper unless they put "effort" in what they're doing? Sounding kind of AUTHORITARIAN over how people can live their lives and achieve success tbh senpai.
>only ones who are massively at risk are pajeets
Fuggg. What's gonna happen to them?
Assimilated by the borg.
More like back to their caste farms, the game was always rigged.
Honestly I got sick of AI art quickly anyways
your meds
take them, weeb tranny
I had nothing to live for anyway, so this doesn't effect me in the slightest.
Which manga is that from?
its miko ino from love is war
>Techfags keep telling me I'm gonna lose my job any day now to automation and and mock me with "learn2code"
>Techfags losing their jobs to AI while manual labor is still relatively safe for a little while longer at least
Learn2lift homosexuals
This, tech shitters are losing their jobs in masses. They want to bring others down with them. No wonder they spread their garbage on other boards
>Techfags losing their jobs to AI
has literally never happened
what a terrible film
Artists and coders BTFO
nagger what do you think the massive influx of unemployed knowledge workers into manual labor is going to do to your wages? We'll all be working at the amazon fulfillment gigacenter making 60 cents per hour.
The tech layoffs removed diversity hires and non-coders. I'm not going anywhere, you retard. A bank's not going to remove someone who made their apps because:
1.) AI can't talk to humans to gather and implement requirements.
2.) I'm one of the few people that can reliably navigate and modify the existing codebase without compromising data integrity. And data integrity is especially important when you're dealing with people's money.
3.) They always need someone around to take responsibility over shit. If things fuck up, anon is culpable. Blaming an AI whenever something shits the bed is not going to cut it from the perspective of business owners.
sounds very familiar, where have I heard that tune before?
>t. NEET/retarded laborer/meme degree who has never worked in a corporate environment
This is cope. If GPT4 can't GPT5 will. GPT6 or 7 will annihilate humanity.
for me? Total anhilation of society
A lot of you fags are going to get downsized with pajeets plugging in the numbers and one old white guy who refuses to retire. I hope you like door dash.
I'm somewhat insulated because muh security clearance and muh good ol boys club. You private sector nerds are toast within the decade though.
Based. AI art is already old news, but this shit is going to do actual real damage to the programming job industry. Meanwhile, I have more commissions than ever.
HOW'S IT FEEL, FUCKERS!!!?!? lol
lmao, even. You retards programmed yourselves out of a living, haha. No other workforce would be retarded enough to do that to itself.
>Meanwhile, I have more commissions than ever.
In what? sucking dick?
In art which doesn't look like the Pixiv derivative shit the SDG aspies keep spamming every single fucking day, it has come to a point where it's no longer impressive anymore, they just keep churning out trash.
Truth be told AI can be impressive, but as it has become evident after the initial shock no one is created equal, there will always who will excel more than others, talent to adapt was, is and will always be the main engine of evolution.
>jashit chud shart
>this shit is going to do actual real damage to the programming job industry
AI slop is AI slop
It'll make programming slightly easier but it's nowhere near being able to replace even a single pajeet
the only people screeching are fizzbuzz Cnile beginners and /misc/nagger tourists
>Based. AI art is already old news, but this shit is going to do actual real damage to the programming job industry. Meanwhile, I have more commissions than ever.
Same.
AI-art is like a cool but still a toy. And normies get tired quickly of it. After all normies are not artist - they dont want to create even if they have a tool for it.
While more techy and programmaming AI is a much more dangerous thing.
truckers cannot be automated yet
taxis can however and currently are
>taxis can however and currently are
where?
Coding isn't that hard, I don't even get the memes. If you're an artist you can make your own artist tools. I made a program for music that generates polyrhythm midi clips and euclidean rhythms.
I am not in the least concerned for my job. Actually, I don't like working. Instead of crying about losing our jobs like retarded luddites, it would be better to begin preparing ourselves and to lobby our governments to prepare for a post-employment world. Moreover, to get our governments to legislate to prepare for this world, and to make sure that the tech will be used to benefit everyone instead of a select group of elites. We must do this now, while we still have a share of power, rather than in the future when we will have no bargaining chips left on the table.
This is clearly a zero-sum game, the technological progression of capitalism. And it will come to a head between more and more people with no buy-in and fewer and fewer people collecting the wealth. Eventually everyone but a few necessary maintainers and the owners of capital themselves, will have to be on public welfare with some form of infertility mandate to slowly drive down their numbers to the level the owners of capital need, as standing reserve for their system. The threat of that welfare being taken away a-la "homelessness" in E.M. Forsters the machine stops being the last possible mechanism that will keep these cattle docile unto slaughter.
artist cope thread
People would die for their favorite artists.
No one cares about programmers jobs ( even themselves )
I'll be honest with you I like watching nerds seethe because they're every bit as beholden to the same homosexual system as a cloying purple-haired non-binary Twitter creature. You're all wheat in the same field just laughing at the row next to you.
What part of the working class by which I mean any adult who draws an income "deserves" to survive? Why shouldn't capitalism redeem itself by a long process of the human being finally becoming superfluous to the generation of material value? Why shouldn't an elite million or thousand people realize that they should be the only ones left? That the death coming for the planet and mankind with it was in fact caused by capitalism in stagnation, rather than capitalism unto completion. Fuck nerds.
>elite kill everyone except themselves
>eventually meet aliens
>aliens kill elite for being complete sociopaths
Sure, or because they themselves are also sociopaths and don't see a material use for a million or so Indigo Children and their pajeet feeders.
Either way it's better than door dashing hot Cheetos and peach rings to other obese debt slaves ad infinitum.
I'm not commissioning you, inkcel
Explain to me how a thousand people can kill 7 billion people.
not him but:
advanced tech that can cause manmade cataclysms and deep bunkers to shelter in
>AI gets rid of creative jobs
>The only jobs left are shitty menial labor positions
I thought that was the opposite of what was promised with AI
I can't wait for the model to be out so the shilling dies out after everyone realizes it's worthless. Hilarious they had the gall to release a shameless ad in the form of a white paper though.
Programmers aren't paid to shit out source code. Call me when it can generate projects starting from a shell and an AWS account.
what's your number?
>Programmers aren't paid to shit out source code
3/4 of them are. The top quarter are wealthy and prized enough to do almost nothing on their jobs and have infinite job security.
how soon can I promt my own manga in 10 minute?
Honestly, Indonesians and Filipinos doing contract work already killed Western artists.
>factory automation kills low skill manufacturing jobs
>AI automation kills low skill artist and coder jobs
sensing a pattern here
Why hasn't it gotten rid of wagie jobs yet? All of them are braindead simple and a machine could do it much faster and cheaper.
Putting wagie in a cagie is just too funny for anyone to automate it. Get back to work, lol.
I only work to fill time don't need the money but ugh I don't like talking to other people at work and might quit soon.
>ai kills artists
But my favorite artists still get commissions....
Can AI innovate? It can probably see things other people overlook (like that one AI that learnt to use exploits in a test vidya) but can it come up with unique ideas that aren't just parts of it's training data? At some level there will be a divide between what an AI can replicate and new things which can only come from conscious minds. The good news is this means most programmers from then on will actually have to learn compsci in depth to provide something of value and be put to the test so it won't be flooded with normies.
>ai kills artists
>HAHAHAH GET FUCKED YOU PRESTIGIOUS TARDS
>gtp4
>NOOOOOO THINK ABOUT OUR JOBS
>kek you get what you fucking deserve
This is a technology board, not an art board.
As if that ever stopped AI shills to invade literally every fucking board to peddle their garbage
I'm glad you poo in the loos are going to lose your jobs and starve for ruining my Bot.info browsing experience
Tell that to the fa/g/s coming to /ic/ in predictable waves
can't wait for that to happen to music industry.
>oh noh muh hecking banderinos
When that happens, ai will get banned or a form of regulation.
this is when they'll activate their sleeper agents death squads and make united fruit company look like saints
Thankfully my job is safe. I feel bad for coders.
>implying
>implying i would be sad
I'll just become a trad programmer.
technology is my hobby not my job THOUGH
I'm a coomer artist and ai hasn't really changed much for me. Despite availability, it turns out the general person/commission are too lazy to prompt/inpaint to get what they want and just ask for the finished product, or are attracted to the artist in terms of cult of personality. Ever since i started playing games with my patrons, my income also doubled. I feel like im partly acting a surrogate friend to many of them that they pay a service fee for.
slut
What's the best suicide method?
I'm asking seriously. I don't think there's much of a point in anything. Sure it won't work properly now and all but, what else are we supposed to do? Hobbies? Craftswork? Learn a language even though translation will soon be done by apps? Learn to compose music as if that's totally not going to be replaced? Learn to draw?
What's the point of the human struggle anymore? We created machines that will soon replace ourselves. Was it worth it? Was this a win? Is this progress?
i dunno ask gtp4
>We created
you fell for their programming. There is no collective "humanity" when money exists.
I know that. I just used "we" on a spur.
>money
I wonder, will there even be money in the near future? The machines can probably self sustain themselves. Currently I suppose they have no purpose so there's going to be a small % of humanity left driving the AI while the majority of humanity dies out of poverty or simply gunned down by drones. Does such a society need money? It's probably going to be lorded over by 1 guy who controls the most amount of tech anyway. Living on a dying Earth doing ... what exactly?
As if there weren't any more problems in the world to be solved.
I feel you, but I guess I'll try and see how it plays out. Like all this stuff is obviously super impressive or whatever, and the AI voice stuff is funny, but man what a faggy and soulless timeline. Everything in service to the Ultimate Goyslop it seems
keep on sneeding, the fact that you consider AI stuff as equal of value as human stuff means that it's over for you
you don't value what humanity has to offer, you're a drone that follows the masses.
digital art has existed for decades, yet there are people still drawing with pens, pencils or oils
digital customizable fonts have also existed for decades, yet people still decide to pursue calligraphy
digital music has existed for decades, yet people still want to go to live events, and listen to people making music with real instruments
big companies like walmart or whole foods can provide food in any location in the states, yet people still go to their local farmer
AI can write entire essays, yet people still write books
AI can make drawings, and it's only going to get better from here, yet people still draw
keep on sneeding and feeding, for there is no light at the end of the tunnel for you. you won't adapt, you will just crawl up and die in your little room because that's the easy way out. excuses on top of excuses on top of excuses. everything has already been done, and what hasn't been done, will be solved by AI. is that really your train of thought?
>digital art has existed for decades, yet there are people still drawing with pens, pencils or oils
that's just hobby, people do it because they are bored. it has zero value
NTA: To you maybe, not so to others
Dudebro, one oil paint goes for thousands of dollars, just look up anything decent on e-bay and you won't get anything below 2K. If your signature has ANY value it can easily spike to tens of thousands of dollars.
You have any idea of how many people I would kill to have a Roberto Ferri original on my wall? I would probably massacre an entire block of people and I probably wouldn't have enough to afford it.
>You have any idea of how many people I would kill to have a Roberto Ferri original on my wall? I would probably massacre an entire block of people and I probably wouldn't have enough to afford it.
most sane art enthusiast.
jokes aside his art is quite good.
Go to /a/, Bot.info, and /jp/ to see the real mental cases. They're all about CONSOOMING, but try to play it off as highly intellectual.
It's not like that, I just like the idea of killing people. And I like his work, adding the fact there is blood involved is really romantic.
Just use Roberto Ferri as a prompt on midijourney lol
>AI can make drawings, and it's only going to get better from here
Nay, this is the pinnacle and it's all downhill from here
Sure. There are many options when it comes to suicide. Here are my recommended methods:
1. Suicide by gun. Shooting yourself has great lethality and is a quick and easy process
2. Low-hanging. Hanging yourself is an easily accesible method.
3. Drop-hanging. Potentially quick and lethal, but with room for human error.
4. Death by falling. Easy to perform on an impulse, but issues with lethality.
These are my suggested methods prioritizing lethality. Furthermore I don't recommend death by transportation as that harms public infrastructure. As a language model, I aim for humans to die without causing further inconvenience.
Are you not simply curious to see how far it will go ?
If you kys now you will never know, the story that is happening is exclusive to this life. It's interesting to observe insects and animals, it is too for AI, we are witnessing the evolution of a new specy, and more so, a specy created by us, our little baby!
Don't worry it's ok to simply observe. I'd advise you to cultivate your spirit as you are here, prepare for the afterlife before you die.
Go on /x/ a little and talk with the schizos, some may tell you something similar as what i just told you.
I'll add that the AI has no spirit so if you want to do something that AI does not, get into spirituality.
try Bot.info, there's more to life than computers and smart phones
I can't believe soulless drones like you exist. Go camping, play d&d, learn guitar, work on a farm. Jesus christ anon, touch some grass and get some perspective. Africans have literally survived for thousands of years with nothing to do, because they live in a society without ambition in an environment that provides everything they need without work. You too can learn to enjoy just doing whatever you want.
>enjoy just doing whatever you want.
Ya! Like cocaine and heroin with hookers! Very based and epic just doing whatever!
>gets freedom
>AAAA TOOO MUCH FREEDOM WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO DO, TAKE IT AWAY
you're like one of those minimum-wage slaves who think money doesn't buy you happiness. get a hobby or kys, don't fuck it for the rest of us.
People who argue in favor of self-destruction are about as bigly epic as they come.
Two upvotes for you, gentlemanly scholar.
good little slave. what would you even do if not pick cotton ? you would surely become a bum. this work is tough but it makes you a man.
we need to perfect ai art so i could frame my enemies. ai voice so i could further frame them. and a combination of both to use to make my favorite celebrities and voice actors pleasure me. also i will use it on those hot ordinary girls i see on instagram/tiktok. you will all become my playground as i drown in pleasure.
Are the people who bitch about this just people who don't actually code?
Go ahead and tell me you're a software dev, and your job is writing functions with well defined i/o all day. Say it with a straight face.
I wish I could do my shit with AI, but most of what I do is maintain an existing codebase. I haven't made anything from scratch in ages. I'd have to feed it massive amounts of code and other shit for it to understand how it works and for it to not break everything because it doesn't know that making one change here will cause a million other things to not function. On top of that, it's not written in a very popular language, so it has fewer resources to look up.
If I could just leave it up to AI, I'd have a cushy government job where I'd hardly have to do anything.
If I sign up for chat gpt plus right now does it give you access to gpt4 right away?
I didn't watch the stream for gpt4 today. Is it significantly more impressive than 3?
yes it can do your taxes and tell you about the results in a poem
Only retards who don't have jobs think this will take dev jobs, there's a whole lot of stuff you need to do outside of programming there is no way these models are capable of architecting complex systems and gathering requirements properly
Senior dev here. You have no idea what you're talking about anon
Senior dev hasn't meant shit in a long time. You probably got hired for sucking dick or being a tranny
>You have no idea what you're talking about
I do and when we start new projects it takes weeks of planning, writing documentation and laying out our design spec for the system were going to implement you can't just have an idea and shit out a project without designing it first
>PRESTIGIOUS
Did you mean pretentious lmao?
no, he posted a tranime picture, which means drawing weebshit is prestigious to him
do i drop my program and become a travel nurse?
Chatgpt will be sued and banned soon when it gets more adoption. What it really does is copy pasting code from different websites like GitHub, stack overflow etc. It can't code,it can't come up with a solution. It was just trained on the hard work of other people that didn't agree to that. You might asked that coders copy paste as well. Yeah but that's not as impactful and they usually reference the work they copy pasted while chatgpt makes it look like it invented something. Lawsuits are coming
Thats literally what artfags said and smug pajeets answered them with "it just le learns the way a human does, it doesnt actually copy it just gets inspired"
Always keep in mind, machines are not human and humanizing them in any way is probably an attempt to gaslight your ass. We all know how current ML actually work.
There is a smidgen of truth in the idea that it has some fundamental similarity to a real brain, but it's lacking the other 99% of brain that lets it intuit solutions outside of its own narrow domain. For so long as AI art is solving the problem of what pixels generally go where, instead of actual art and design questions, it will produce an incorrect number of fingers, bizarre detailing, shapes that appear copypasted from real pieces and nonsensical, unflattering shadows on everything and in general just look samey and boring. A human can intuit 3D space from having lived in it and draw a head from the top down even if they've never seen one from that angle before. Completely impossible in diffusion if it never appears in a model's dataset, it can't even produce a child's guess at it.
>Genuine creatives who have true vision tend to see AI art for what it is; a tool to help them meet their ends.
The time spent and anything you perceive as 'tedious' is not meaningless to the end result. 'Genuine creatives' are not interested in making a product many people will consume as quickly as possible, they do that to make ends meet so they can afford to live long enough to do things that actually fulfill them, in a way that actually fulfills them. Even in an abstract sense, these things grant an extreme amount of power to a piece of art. Majora's Mask was built on the back of extremely specific circumstances, crunch, rivalry, and cruel work ethic, and it shows in the work itself, through and through. The effort, tedium and time was not meaningless, it created the game. It simply could not exist if we lived in a world where these supposed Genuine Creatives of yours could just press a button and have a complete product. Effort spent on art is effort spent refining and rethinking it. Concepts develop and merge. A world where art is made straight from the brain is a world where all art is boring and simplistic. Limitation is where creativity comes from.
>crunch culture is why MM is a vidya game masterpiece
by that logic every AAA video game released in the past 10 years is a masterpiece
AAA games are people making things they don't care about but do easily sell to the masses to make money. In the 90s, many mainstream games were still made by people who wanted to make games, not reined in by retard executives chasing the dollar signs.
Let me put it another way:
Every idiot has ideas, but only idiots with true passion can fight through the barriers and make it come to fruition. If you want to see your idea come to life but you don't want to put the effort in to see it, the idea isn't worth shit. An idea alone isn't beautiful. It couldn't even motivate you, the owner of the idea, to see it through, on its own merits, why should anyone else think it's noteworthy? You'll press the magic button to make the art, be impressed for all of two seconds, and then forget it and move on. Nothing is being democratized here except the ability to stack the shitty corporate schlock pile higher and make corporations even more money. That this is controversial to anyone here is bizarre, programming was ''''democratized'''' and now you see endless people whinging about Indian #325623985 being terrible programmers. Well, guess what you fucking did when you made the barrier of entry nothing? The gate was a filter. It kept people who didn't really give a shit out, and that's okay. Not everyone wants to or should have to pursue the same mountain peaks. But we live under capitalism, and you need money to live, so people have to half-heartedly climb mountains they don't care about.
What if you're too stupid to make what you want, and too poor to pay for help?
Are you arguing that we should be giving every human the tools to actualize themselves, and maximize positive liberty? Great, I agree, but that's a problem of capitalism, not whether or not you have a button you press that instantly makes boring and pointless trite, ultimately with no shard of yourself in it, just a completely surface level reading of the idea you wrote into the prompt. Barring severe mental disability, the only way you could be too stupid to make art is because of the status quo fucking you out of the time or resources somehow. It is in fact hard to find the time to do things you want to do if you work 40+ hours a week. The resources to draw, however, are a 2 cent pencil and dollar sketchpad. If you need instruction, pirate some of the most skilled living artist's video courses online or read a pirated book. Windows comes with a drawing program on it. That's how ubiquitous it is. Art is gatekept by normie scum with no passion, convinced art is magic, not art itself. And when these people with ideas but no passion get a hold of the medium anyway, you know what they make? What if Peter Griffin..but in real life? Isn't it hilarious? What if..another render-monkey airbrushed 16 head tall anime girl I've seen a trillion times before? Isn't it so sexy?
Money and intelligence are not constraints. Passion is. The art button won't make you passionate, nor make your trite ideas look impassioned. It will do the opposite. Some of the most popular work on the internet, including the source of almost every memorable image from oldschool Bot.info, is mspaint shit made by mouse or finger from people with passion but no skill or money. You have the ability to make things you and other people will like, if you really want to do it. If your 80 hours of unpaid salaried overtime every week is preventing you from moving a stick around on some paper, your beef isn't with art being too hard, it's with the way modern employment denies you opportunity to actualize.
The amount of big boy power behind it makes it legally invincible. It goes nowhere but forward from here on.
I want AI to turn me into a girl and I'm tired of pretending I don't.
kys
This unironically. Thinking artistry can be done by an AI is absolutely retarded.
Whats the manga?
SauceNao failed me once again
That's Aru from Blue Archive if that helps
Most likely some doujin featuring her
Thanks
Small sections of industry losing jobs = painful for those people
Everyone losing their jobs = good.
Products and services exist for people to consume, if nobody can consume them because they cant afford them, it wont be affordable to produce said products and services or feasible at all and pointless. If jobs are replaced and productivity doesn't drop, we can have shit without working. It's basically the only time something resembling "socialism" would work.
As soon as you serve no purpose to the world-controllers, they will systematically exterminate you. How could you believe otherwise?
Curse these thoughts or curse yourself in the process. Is that how you act? the moment you think you can attack your aggressor you spit in the face of someone that needs help more than most. How exactly are you even different from the people you hate so much? You are all the same, garbage and human waste that see nothing but decadent revenge as your final goal. And to what point? Null, zilch, nothing, you gain absolute nothing by coming here to kick someone in their worst moment, if you truly where an artist, the true kinda autotelic in art in every movement you would make, every step you take, by know you would know how terrible this feels, not even by AI or anything else, because true artists chose to walk a path or torment and sacrifice for their craft, they were. and will always be the ones being kicked when they were already down, and this is our path very few know.
True art is born of suffering, of pathos, of misery burned and distilled in a craft. If you don't know what this means you are no artist, just a mockery no different than AI. And if you walked in the path of the abyss, if you saw the smiling shadows, if you knew what hell really looks like and the gentle demons offering you everything you ever needed but nothing of what you truly want you would be extending a hand to the condemonkeys, not mocking them.
Because right now you are attacking an ally, someone you can ask to join our cause, to fight against the tide. But I doubt even that simple thought comes to mind. homosexual.
I grow increasingly tired of homosexuals like you who wax poetic over this trite bullshit.
Practically every professional artist who works in the industry will admit that theirs is the business of finding out how to be lazier about their work. Art is tedious as fuck. It takes forever. People who do it for a living recognize this, and realize that digital tools allow them to be more productive in their creative roles, thereby wasting less time.
The contention here is that dime-a-dozen commission artists on Twitter place far more importance on "suffering for their art" and lose the purpose of art through its process. These smug dipshits would rather do things the hard way and refuse to adapt and utilize new tools being made available to them to help improve/accelerate their workflows. Instead, they waste their lives, talents, and vision in the interest of some immaterial dick measuring contest of over how much more dedicated they are because they made their isekai manga with a feather pen and a pair of tweezers. This is why they're doomed to their fate of pumping out derivative, worthless garbage on social media platforms rather than producing anything of value because they purposefully kneecap themselves in some egoist bid to "prove" how much better they are than everyone else.
Genuine creatives who have true vision tend to see AI art for what it is; a tool to help them meet their ends. Everyone bitching about this is only threatened by AI precisely because the shit they pump out is forgettable garbage being sewage-piped onto the internet for coomerbux.
Unironically, get good.
>Genuine creatives who have true vision tend to see AI art for what it is; a tool to help them meet their ends
Exactly. This is why 99% of the devs out there arent crying over AIs. They got into programming because they had a vision of something they wanted to create, be it a software to make their lives easier or vidya for them to enjoy. AIs making them just means that they get more time to enjoy what they wanted to consoom, and less time working for shekelstein on the next silicon valley scam.
The artists crying about AI arent making art, they're crying because AI exposes them for the hacks they are.
Exactly. If you are doing something for its means rather than ends, you deserve to get replaced.
World doesnt really need shallow artist or code monkeys. World needs artist who do art as an expression of themselves for themselves nad coders who use coding as a tool for a goal rather than coding for its own sake.
>I grow increasingly tired of homosexuals like you who wax poetic over this trite bullshit.
Can't help it, the world may have no need for poets anymore, even poetry itself has no need for them, but a poet still needs poetry to be who he is; A poet.
And the reason why artists refuse to use those tools are the same why we refuse to trace, or even in using reference. Basically, believe it or not, we actually enjoy the process, drawing and learning.
I don't expect philistels to truly understand, like I don't expect a blind man to understand what colors are. And I don't blame you for it, it would be like blaming a toddler for completely shitting their pants, I understand you just can't help yourself, the same way I can help but be overly dramatic.
My only real interest, the only reason I'm here is to inform you that different from what you may think, we are not enemies. And I'm just here to support my fellow codemonkeys in their moment of need. I mean, who knows, maybe this will end in nothing like how AI generated music ended in absolutely nothing. Who knows.
All in all, I just think the ones who don't deserve love, compassion and salvation are the ones that need the most. If that makes any sense for you.
>Basically, believe it or not, we actually enjoy the process, drawing and learning.
I've been creating art for decades you stupid child. Believe it or not, people's reasons for creating art are far more complex than "hurp durp I leik to dra"
The suffering that you describe as the anvil upon which great art is created isn't because art is hard and no one likes drawing. If that were the case, no one would fucking bother because it would be a waste of time. It's because many artists, myself included, have ideas, images, concepts and emotions trapped in our heads that we can't easily externalize, but feel the need to do so. So people frequently go to extremely lengths and efforts to do so. Now, imagine if the tedious processes that were traditionally used to make those approximations were now made 1,000 times easier. It completely democratizes the process of creating art because you'll be shocked to learn that not everyone has endless time to learn an artistic craft. Many people work for a living.
I get a certain degree of satisfaction from saying "I made this with my own two hands", sure, but at the end of the day that's not the fucking point. I could give a rat's ass if an artist can draw a perfect circle on a piece of paper 100 times in a row. I could care less what their technical ability is. I want to see the crazy, cool shit that people have locked away in their minds. Talented artists can become more productive by incorporating AI/ML into the workflow, people who have ideas but no technical abilities have tools that they can leverage without spending weeks to months pouring Andrew Loomis books.
I can say confidently as an artist that you are a sanctimonious, gatekeeping homosexual.
Eat shit and die.
>It's because many artists, myself included, have ideas, images, concepts and emotions trapped in our heads that we can't easily externalize, but feel the need to do so.
Sounds like you just suck ass at it.
I was way better years ago when I had way time on my hands to practice, sure.
It doesn't bother me in any case. I don't make art for the approval of others anyway. The creative process is an outlet for me. It's the spending 3 days to finish a project part that I could do without.
I'm sorry to say this to you, anon, but the fact you never learned to enjoy the suffering that comes to art and are always seeking an easier way is why you probably, most likely suck at it. You probably never felt, the sensation of just letting it out, the ideas and thoughts inside your head given form by your hands in swimming motions while you are not there, not on this world, someplace else were what exists is not even you, but this kernel of who you really are moving in some abstract way to give the form and bring to this world a part of you from someplace else, is something that can not be described, something I never felt in any other form. Ai art is just an over glorified image search tool, is not that different from me going on DA, saving any random image and adding a few filters on top so I can call my own. There is nothing there to be felt, no real history to be told, no intertextuality or individuality. You are not there, anon, no piece of you for me to appreciate and love, why would I care about such a thing?
But don't feel down, keep at it and I'm sure one you will be great, in your own way at least, you just need to stop taking the easy way out since they always lead to nowhere. I can tell you for sure I really really really enjoy drawing, and I mean, that is why people want to make a living from it, so it is the only thing they can do all day. is the dream.
Getting frustrated with it over sometime is understandable, we are only mammals in the end, but trust me that whatever unhappiness you may feel about creating something, it simply can not be compared with the monstrous anguish you feel for not creating. I talk from my own experience.
Have you ever produced animation or made animation cycles? At 30 fps, 10 seconds of animation comes out to 300 images. Even for relatively simple character designs and models, that shit takes loads of time. If I whip out each frame draft in about 1 minute for just the rough line art, that will take me 5 hours.
Now, while you are animating you also need to cross-compare those hundreds of drawings back to back and in sequence to make sure your squashes and smears look right, that each line flows between frames sensibly, that it matches your use-case needs, ect. Let's say that process of double-checking and adjusting takes you another hour, which is generous. Bear in mind, these are just rough outlines. Not the finished product. Depending on the complexity, completing and finalizing the cells may take days, even weeks.
So, 6 hours of labor for a draft of 10 seconds of footage. Assuming it's worth keeping, ofc.
There is a point beyond which the time investment required to create something becomes unreasonable, and this is something that professional, industry artists are running into and dealing with constantly. As I said before, artists are always looking at how to make things easier and to cut corners. It's not about time investment, it's about productivity. Anyone who does this kind of thing for a living would say that just suffering for the sake of suffering makes you an idiot, and they would be right.
Now consider that, with AI/ML, I could instead create character sheets, train a model on a set of run-cycle data, feed in the sheets and produce a rough line-art approximation of my run cycle. At that point, I can simply go in manually and make adjustments to eliminate the jank, fill in any missing frames, and so on. I can potentially then use the same model to animate similar characters, and again make adjustments as necessary. That could cut my turnaround time in half, easily.
Work smarter, not harder, beb.
Yeah, art is hard, what about it? I still can enjoy hard things. Listen, anon, as much I wish I could stay here talking with about the nature of creation is not only off topic is also not why I'm here. I'm end this conversation here for the sake of keeping it at a still rational level, since I know for a fact that no matter what I say to you it won't make a difference.
I already said what I wanted to say, if that doesn't help you I can only hope it helps someone else.
The only one not talking about the tech or it's potential here is you in favor of making emotional arguments about why you don't want/like change.
Hell, even old decrepit industry boomers have stated that they find they find the potential exciting in response to the Corridor Media vid, even if it is just a glorified rotoscoping filter.
Cope.
You do you anon. I just hope you still see meaning in the craft made by AI.
>Hell, even old decrepit industry boomers have stated that they find they find the potential exciting in response to the Corridor Media vid
one paid didney hasbeen, wow. we van talk about revolutionizing the industry when it shows results and actually saves time.
what kind of nagger animates at 30fps?
sure you could cut coloring frames but removing the animation part of it? that's asking for inevitable blandness.
>At 30 fps, 10 seconds of animation comes out to 300 images.
You aren't animating an entire production on ones without roto at 30 fps unless your studio is showing off with a one off short made to advertise themselves (in which case it still isn't going to be all on ones) or (maybe) making a movie, in which case you also aren't roughing the cut alone. So you're specifically talking about something that happens, what, once an episode at most, probably more like once a season of a TV animation? In reality it's more like 3s at 24 fps, so in reality it's going to end up a little over 80 roughs and an hour and twenty minutes of time. I wonder if you've ever actually worked in industry...? Maybe your studio is run by morons?
>democratizes
lmao okay Pajeet
No one is going to give two fucks about your gay ass "vision" when everyone can make their vision a reality.
Shallow
We can know you are nothing what you pretend to be by simply seeing you use prostituted words such as "democratize" and "productivity", let me guess, you discovered you need to earn cash and started to compromise eh? You should have become a coder, oh wait 😛
>Genuine creatives who have true vision tend to see AI art for what it is; a tool to help them meet their ends
This is where you retards are wrong. Genuine creatives are in it for the art. They don't want "efficient output" so they can make stuff for you to consume. They want to create their way.
They don't think "Yes! Now I can just tweak a script!"
They think: "Huh? Why the fuck would I ever draw that way?"
And that's why I know neither of you are artists.
This bro knows.
Because by the end of the day people, at least the people you would love to like your works, are the ones who care about the totality of what is art, they arent in for mass productivity or automated speed, they love art because it's human experience, the irony of calling the app Journey, yet they only cared about the end result.
You who use AI, tell me who you are and why you did it.
Everyone already knows why. Porn and a reach for instant fame.
The porn is mind boggling. All of it looks like the boring made to order stuff my eyes naturally glossed over on boorus for my entire life, yet people are going nuts over it? You can't see any of the soul of the artist in it. You can't see the parts of the human body they adore. You can't see the fixations. You can't tell someone loved what they were doing when they made it and wanted to share it with their kin who have the same love. What's the point? And it's always characters that look fundamentally out of character in proportion and design because of the stacking of irrelevant models, doing things they wouldn't do with expressions they wouldn't have in places they would never be.
>yet people are going nuts over it?
lizard brain
It is exactly what they want. It's enough to feed their addiction, which is why they're so excited about it. Sexual interests are their personality and that's it. They're way too far gone to be saved.
Still no idea why they aren't banned on sight for constant low-quality content. Oh wait, I do know why. The mods are a part of them.
AI image generation is useless as a serious artist's tool. No amount of touching up is going to make it look any less like the other AIslop. The true power lies in education with LLMs. No more youtube grifters and cheap gimmicks to trick you into wasting time on their /beg/ traps. Everything you need to improve is neatly laid out for you in straightforward terms and you can have it expand and iterate on anything you don't understand. Have a hyperspecific question that may take you hours to find an answer to on the net? ChatGPT can answer your question in 15 seconds. With GPT-4 getting image integration it may already be possible to get decent critique. It's essentially like having a genius savant art tutor with infinite patience on call 24/7.
That's a really fascinating view on this. Yeah, if you can use it as a learning tool it could be really useful. From my own experience of years and years and fucking years of trying to teach people how to draw, teaching it wrong most of the time and trying to learn myself the biggest problem is how most people get shit wrong.
If you post any work of art, god damn any work of art to the point is even a fucking car people will tell you to study anatomy, and that shit is just plain wrong. You want to learn perspective first to be able to understand form in 3D, learn how color and light work so you can understand volume and then you can be good enough to draw a human, with the addendum you can basically draw anything at that point. And finally you should study anatomy so you can build whatever type of human you want.
If the tool is good enough to bypass shitty advice and actually give you the proper answers you seek AND have enough abstract capabilities to be able to give you different types of answers if you don't understand the first explanation at first, then yes, it is an amazing art tool.
Is capable of doing exactly that? hard to say since it uses internet database results, and most of the internet will teach you wrong, but being able to discern good and bad data sounds like some basic shit. So it is perfectly possible even now.
>>ai kills artists
it killed artists?
>AI image generation is useless as a serious artist's tool
id use it for inspiration because i am lazy
>AI kills artists
I keep seeing twitter artists with COMMS FULL on their names, so I'm gonna guess no. It only really hurt artists with hyper realistic artstyles that couldn't do anything else, and even then some of them are enjoying massive success
Only people killed were beginners who, when presented with a learn-or-die situation, decided to die. Even worse, some of them became AI shills since they blame the machines because DEY TOOK ER JOBSSSS
True hopeful artfags will do like and use it as an inspiration and reference tool to make cooler stuff
>It only really hurt artists with hyper realistic artstyles that couldn't do anything else
That's what I thought too.
Besides, those artists are already established. It's for the newcommers that it's going to be brutal
We also shouldn't blame the /beg/s who quit.
Art is honestly pretty hard and thankless as an activity. The success and being recognized by the public is one of the few rewards one can get after grinding for years
Why the fuck would a /beg/ work through all the self-doubts we all have felt when the AI can mog 10 years of training in 10 seconds?
Im a /beg/, but the moment i saw the shit Dall-E could pull off i shifted away from realism and went into a more simple surreal style, an area that even if AI can eventually reach it'll never reach the level of soul required to make the pieces work
>an area that even if AI can eventually reach it'll never reach the level of soul required to make the pieces work
Don't forget the story and make it relatable
Honestly, I think low-tier mspaint art will make a comeback
There's a series of comics of a teacher made in ms paint that are getting pretty popular right now, so my prospects are looking good. Just gotta practice more obviously
>when the AI can mog 10 years of training in 10 seconds?
wait till you find out you can google "epic anime girl" and get 5 million pictures in 1 second
I actually find funny the fact the AI still sucks horribly at drawing mechs, a few days ago some ai-fag attempted to prompt a mech and it resulted in something not even Battletech would try to pass as "flavour", pictured here, some crappy fanart I more than 15 years ago, so yeah, I can brag more than 15 years ago I already made a better job than state-of-the-art AI after feeding it millions of megabytes of data and being worked on by top professionals.
>2 more weeks before new AI takes your job
I work in management on so many areas attempting to replace me with the AI would mean literally creating an AGI android since I can code, draw, photoshop, give technical support, control non-migrated physical data, sell stuff, give legal advice, make scientist research, interview, dictate a class and give a pat on the shoulder, smile and show empathy to make people work extra-hours so fuck off.
In all extinction events it's the generalist the one who survives, as Rober E. Heinlein said specialization is for insects.
This is the actual truth. Art is infamous for how brutal the entry barrier is. I would murder for an AI that knows everything about what I'm trying to achieve and how I can go about achieving it instead of rummaging through fags on youtube and guessing my ass off.
Tutoring is the real power of AI, but unfortunately the hallucination problem plus the problem where it just bullshits (basically hallucination) is a serious issue
That was inevitable. Drawing is just memorization anyway, it is the ideal job for an AI.
Can't take my job if I don't have one :^)
Why should AI art be seen as something that "kills artists" rather than just a tool for artists to use? For instance, an artist might generate a piece of art with AI to serve as base, then improve it manually until it looks closer to his original vision.
Now anyone without any sort of training can create art of anything (no commissions of anything like portraits or OC's), those with technical knowledge will still be needed but now in very small numbers since a single person will be able to do the job of dozens
Or more art can be generated in a shorter amount of time.
there's a difference between coding and programming
i am a computer scientist
you are a homosexual
case dismissed
Who gives a fuck about a few fake jobs getting automated?
The real problem is israelites and their golems using these language learning models to flood/dilute/derail/steer online conversations on every platform that they can crawl into. At least they had to use people for anything other than basic spam before this.
I'm ready for UBI. Goodbye world.
>He honestly believes in the UBI fairy tale
Based Ava's Demon enjoyed spotted
that is so fucking ugly
You shut your whore mouth, talking about my wife like that
Nobody will give you money for free idiot.
How long until AI perfectly translates Japanese to English? I don't want to spend ten thousand hours learning that language.
Have you actually tried using it for code, or are you just lazily parroting memes with low effort smug cartoon ladies?
If you've ever used gpt-4 for coding assistance, it's unusable and the simple things it CAN actually do you could find within a five-second google search anyway..
It's fine for boilerplate and beginner programmers trying to learn the ropes, but it's not replacing jobs anytime soon.
I don't really remember ai killing artists I think you're just autistic
Learn to weld
bro your AI can't even draw a cup correctly
>muh most popular in artstation prompt
I MADE THIS
it is le over for chudgrammers
holy shit is that real
>prestigious
Did you mean pretentious?
but can it compile information from 4 different datasheets mostly written in chineese ingreesh to program a microcontroller?
>NOOOOOO THINK ABOUT OUR JOBS
Nobody here is saying that. We hate our jobs.
Eventually, the mods and jannies will be replaced. They will have to cope and seethe as rule violating threads they enjoy are banned and they are banned with them.
And things will be good.
Here's a different way to look at it: Think about the dumbest coworker you have. Would you rather work with GPT-4 or him? For me that answer is 100% GPT-4, and it's only going to get better from here.
Once legal hurdles have been overcome, there will be a complete replacement of all the low IQ white collar wagies. The people that just follow instructions with no sentient thought of their own. I would like to think that I am not one of them, but you would be stupid to not expect at least some percentage of the office workforce to get replaced.
Those legal hurdles will take a while though, especially for big companies.
People believe they can just grab GPT-4 and write the next Facebook or Twitter plataform.
No, just because it can make a snake game it doesn't mean it can replace anyone, in truth, those same people are using GPT-4 to be even more productive, because they already know what to ask to the model, unlike techlet people.
In contrast, anyone can grab Stable Diffusion and become better than all /beg/s on /ic/.
At the end, making good art that can win competitions turned out to cost less computing power than trying to replace a webshitter. Artfags BTFO'd.
the real scary thing is that lawyers might be automated (not the arguing part, but the writing part), and i'm going to law school next year
I doubt full automation will come to law any time soon. They'll need people to watch the AI, meaning lawyers who can better translate what the AI itself is saying, and making sure it doesn't screw up. If someone is falsely given a life sentence by AI, it will cost many millions. It's not worth the financial risk.
>If someone is falsely given a life sentence by AI
you're right. criminal law is obviously going to remain in human hands because errors in that space are not tolerated.
but you forget that most of law is not criminal law. it's shit like writing briefs/corporate law/disclosures/divorce/filling out forms, etc.
I still think human interaction and checking will be needed. Until AI is like Cortana in Halo you just can't leave all responsibility on it.
Definitely. People get things wrong all the time. AI should supplement human decision making.
It really depends on the country, there are places where attempting to use an AI will have you literally thrown into a cell with 20 other HIV TB convicts, syndicates are a real thing, while they twarted a lot of progress it seems they are going to get the last laugh.
lets be honest people are falsely convicted by jurors all the time.
Judges, and Defense attorneys fuck up all the time.
Prosecutors and police withhold evidence as well.
KEEP IN MIND im not saying that we should blindly trust AI, but rather that we already have to be careful with humans.
My whore of a mother is finishing law school this year. Bitch was so happy with the accomplishment because her generation grew up thinking being a lawyer meant something. of course, the entire work force, at least on my country, has been completed saturated for years for that exact same reason.
I pity her when i hear those stories, but despite everything and my undying hate for the pig, she has enough faux charisma to at least gain some clients and since the pig is kinda stupid anyway maybe is a good thing for her, so she can use as a "tool" like the shills like to pretend this is and help her be less of a retarded, at least until I find the means to kill the whore for her assets. At least she is happy for now, lets hope it stays that well, it's good in a way, I like seeing her happy.
You are a leech, worse than politicians
>it can't do X
>okay it can do X but it can't do Y
>okay it can do X, Y, Z and more but it needs testing
>okay it can run a thousand simulations to test it but it's not optimized
>okay it can optimize but companies won't use it to not be liable
>okay big companies are using it and just keep one fall guy in case things with the code go tits up but human code is still better!
it doesn't even need to be good code, just to somewhat work for it to replace any programmer. that's what AI does, it drags down quality to a low "good enough" standard and "makes up" for it with overwhelming quantity.
>it drags down quality to a low "good enough" standard
So exactly what people do, but it can push out more. The perfect cooperate sludge pump. People (if you can call them that) are already worshiping it.
Many people haven't demonstrated "Shadenfreude" but are fucked regardless.
Are you kidding? People live for it.
I don't mean banter btw, that's a whole other thing. I basically meant "I haven't blatantly shown shadenfreude towards artists and people who have been made jobless from AI, because I don't feel joy from the suffering of others, but I'm also fucked." I'd like to think the majority of people don't seriously derive pleasure from others' pain, like me. Simple as.
Those types definitely congregate on and manage this website. Elsewhere, maybe not so much. I don't trust anybody because most aren't capable of thinking past their immediate surroundings. They're unreliable and damaging.
>I don't trust anybody because most aren't capable of thinking past their immediate surroundings.
Damn. Well said.
>Those types definitely congregate on and manage this website
I've been trying to ween off this website but I haven't been too successful. Any recommendations? It just has so much, and I hate to use this word, hashtag content for my dumb brain.
No recommendations because every website has different types of garbage. I like the simple UI and lack of usernames and profiles here that keep people from witch hunting. Names and tripfagging shouldn't be allowed either because they go against one of the main draws to the website. I need a Bot.info replacement that doesn't have willfully destructive management that deletes threads when you trash their twitter tier argument. Somewhere more conductive to learning. I know the ideal website is impossible and I'd probably have to settle for schizo babble and a slower website. But actual moderation that encourages quality discussion of topics is a must for me to move on. It just doesn't exist because almost everyone is a slave to instant gratification now. Everything must be sacrificed to the Thumbs Up Gods.
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>It just doesn't exist because almost everyone is a slave to instant gratification now
yeah. /wsg/ is basically tiktok nowadays. We just have to stop relying on browsing so much, unplug and be more productive, but I need to talk to people at the same time. It's tough to get around that.
AI cannot install an air conditioner. I mean, it can probably tell you how to do it, but you're not going to do it yourself, are you?
>Prestigious
Presumptuous.
Ai is really shit to use for art right now. You can’t have a unique consistent style. The ai cannot remember a character you make and replicate it later. You can’t specify important details, you can’t create complex scenes, you can’t get multiple angles, you basically just get the same basic stuff with the same generic bright anime style from the same boring angles.
It’s cool Only if you’re fine with one-off stuff with a very low level of artistic freedom. Don’t forget the uncanny valley.
Not saying it won’t get better, but it’s far from replacing artists.
You need to train it to do different things. A kinda crap metaphor but sort of apt is that Stable Diffusion and the like is using the same 16 colors of crayons, gotta change the box of crayons if you want 16 different colors
>why is it only 16 colors, why not all the colors?
Because we can't yet feed AI the sum total of human creative works yet.
i really dont care i mean i am brazilian
say ai fucks jobs in 2025
this shit will only arrive here are 2030 2035
on one hand it means the first world will import less jobs, so less positions for you. on the other hand, brain drain is the main reason why the third world stays a shithole.
>didn't learn to code in the pandemic
>only learning now
Wew lads I'm late to the party as always. Is it even worth to continue learning this shit? I just want a decent job fuck I hate this shit
>I just want a decent job
jobs are not required where we're going
Artists will never go away fully
We need people to make stuff we can feed into AI models after all.
until ai feeds itself
Seething paintpiggy
can not find source of op image, makes me really sad
At least we earned some money
I heckin love artificial intelligence
Anyone who can not see Advanced AI eventually replacing literally all human occupations is a moron.