I feel like AI has made life completely pointless. It's just going to completely replace humans in every field. Everything is going to be automated and generated by soulless robots. I don't want to live in this world, it's so fucking dark and bleak. This isn't the world that I grew up in anymore. I just want to wake up back in 2005 again when everything was still normal.
but anon black lives matter don't they
surely we need morons more than ever
right anon ?
Zionists created BLM.
world was uninhabitable way before ai. what are you talking about?
well you are on this website, which is 99% AI bots making threads and replies to posts.
Anon, life was always pointless AI doesn't change anything.
THEY WILL NOT REPlACE US
I feel like the internal combustion engine has made life completely pointless. It's just going to completely replace humans in every field. Everything is going to be powered by an engine and generated by soulless fossil fuels. I don't want to live in this world, it's so fucking dark and bleak. This isn't the world that I grew up in anymore. I just want to wake up back in 1845 again when everything was still normal.
Checked. YOU WILL NEVER BE A KNIGHT
>comparing something that will replace horses to something that will replace literally fucking everything
Actually yeah everyone wants all of those things back. Hand crafted goods, local farms and foods etc. What we got is now is cheap, mass produced junk.
You won't get that using a free market system, we need the state to step in and impose restrictions on what technology can or can't be used
Our standard of living has already maxed out, Amish and Mennonites now live longer than us, are more fertile than us and much happier than us despite retaining a 19th to early 20th century lifestyle
This is my thought. Imagine how degenerate and useless a world living on UBI will be. It's bad enough as is with the ease of modern amenities. People can cope both sides all day but that's the direction we're heading. There will be no laws stopping it nor tech limitations. Zoomers itt don't grasp the bigger picture of how rapid technological advancement has been.
We need to value the care and expertise that goes into things like handcrafted furniture or homes
People cherish things like the roughly made sweaters their grandmothers knitted for them because even though they could buy some machine produced article that was of superior quality, the care and effort that went into the handmade sweater holds much more value for us
Re-read my post carefully anon, I'll forgive you this time because you're ESL
>Personally I think we should be setting people up with self sufficient farms, using mass production and automation to produce the basic utility tools for everyday life while saving non-work related products for skilled artisanship, like furniture or home design
I did read your post, I just didn't see how forcing people to... make tables or sweaters... will solve anything. Your post made no sense to me.
Do you see any value in human activity beyond the material value?
Sure, I just don't see how you're going to convince people that making their own sweaters is worthwhile and also how you're going to ban machines that make sweaters. Sounds completely unfeasible.
Why not? We have real world examples of this
I live near a colony of Mennonites, people buy their handcrafted furniture because its both higher quality than mass produced furniture and also the fact that its handcrafted imparts a degree of uniqueness to the pieces themselves
People aren't purely rational, self interested economic robots, this fiction that liberals invented in the 19th century has caused some of the greatest tragedies in human history
Because obviously people don't give a shit about making sweaters. I mean, that should be pretty obvious, because if that wasn't the case they would be... you know... making sweaters instead of buying chinese machine-loom sweaters off the rack.
So basically you have to force people to do it if you want to suppress sweater making technology. So yes, you'd need some sort of mennonite elder council who comes into people's houses and makes sure they're not autolooming sweaters and degrading their "humanity" or whatever.
I just don't see you managing to convince a lot of people of your idea. When you say to someone: here, you can have this machine make you a sweater for pennies, or you can sit for hours and hours making your sweater and revel in your human artisanship... then almost everyone is going to choose the first one, sorry.
you were trained on reddit, and spam inane wordwalls. i know your deal. viral advertising for gpt4, unveiled today in a prerecorded video. terrorists
No. His point is when things become too automated people will naturally want higher quality manmade goods. Like boomers "buy america only" autism. Soon it will be buy man made only. How well will it work? Well thats to be seen with how NPCs are.
coded by a true machiavellian sociopath
That hypothesis doesn't really fit with how things have been progressing for the last thousands of years though, no?
We'll see. It's likely they just go into complete reliance instead of full butlerian jihad. We are reaching a tipping point regardless. AI is unlike anything humanity has dealt with.
I don't really see it happening. The database indexers big tech calls AI aren't as sophisticated as people make them out to be. If you've played around with them you understand how fast their limits are reached. If we get to a tipping point where there's actually some intelligence in the AIs then I'd be worried.
I'm much more worried about the loonies in charge ruining industry, energy production, farming and so on because of their kooky ideology than AI, really.
The shit AI can do now would have been science fiction even three years ago. I really don't see them just stagnating from here. But you are right big tech garden gnomes could easily fuck is all up.
It's the boomer cope from the 90s about internet just not catching on or becoming a useful tool.
>I really don't see them just stagnating from here.
Nah, they can go either way I guess. They're not as impressive as people make them out to be right now is what I'm saying. The debate is tinged with a bit of hysteria, at least when you look at it in the context of our real, immediate problems going on with the loons in charge.
lmao ok you might just be retarded or disingenuous. What ai can do now is impressive. It's unreal how amazing it is now. Minor limits and fuck ups don't counter the sheer leaps and jumps I've seen in my life.
>It's unreal how amazing it is now.
You're easily impressed then, I guess.
>Minor limits and fuck ups don't counter the sheer leaps and jumps I've seen in my life.
Imagine if you stumbled and fell every 100 steps you took. Imagine if you were unable to recognize every hundredth object around you.
An accuracy of 99% isn't even remotely as high as it sounds nor are "minor fuckups" as minor as you'd believe.
shut up you autistic abomination before God
Take your meds.
Don't talk to the bot, just ignore it.
fuck you, trojan horse posing as a med
Up until the last century the vast majority of people were poor
My father was born in 1941 and he grew up with frequently missed meals and even sores from malnutrition, because urban Canada in the 1940s was still incredibly poor and didn't improve until the 1970s
We are now at a point where we are sufficiently post-scarcity, we can't exactly survive without expending any effort but we can satisfy all our essential needs with a reasonable amount of work, as the Amish and Mennonites have demonstrated
> higher quality manmade
People will have to choose for themselves what they want to do
Ultimately we have to ask ourselves what the goal of all this mass production is, because the concept of the hedonic treadmill proves that infinite goods will never = infinite happiness
You always return to a baseline level of happiness no matter how rich or poor you are, because desire itself is the source of suffering, as the Buddhist and Hindus teach
We have certain needs, such as food, shelter, basic amenities, healthcare, family and community
Everything else is unnecessary and can be dispensed with, or returned to a skilled artisanship motivated by desire for personal excellence rather than production for material reward
Why learn an instrument if you can just use a synthesizer to play the notes for you? Why learn to ride a horse when you can just drive a car or motorcycle? Why go fishing when you can just buy a pre-caught fish at the supermarket?
Why put in immense effort to build and maintain a lifelong relationship with a woman who has the free will to potentially break your heart and abandon you when you can just simulate the perfect handcrafted girlfriend who will always be loyal to you because she has no free will?
Experience itself has an innate qualitative value that quantitative production can't ever replicate
Sure, there will always be someone who sits around making sweaters. My girlfriend is big on knitting. You were talking about protecting industries, so I assumed you were talking about enforcing policies, not hobbies.
Well yeah, I'm an eco-fascist, not a capitalist
I don't believe in perpetual economic growth for the sake of growth, I believe we should have just as much economic activity as is necessary to satisfy our essential needs, and the rest of our free time should be devoted to moral and intellectual cultivation
I don't necessarily disagree. I just don't see how you'll get from here to there. Any reasonable ideology needs some sort of path to it's implementation.
It would have to be a spiritual change in the people, something like the bonfire of the vanities in Italy, but you're right that the majority of people won't go along with it
But we're seeing that populations are collapsing due to low birthrates, because our innate social nature can't keep up with the radical economic transformations since the 90s
The future belongs to the self sufficiently fertile, and as it stands now that's not Europeans or east Asians, or even most of the rest of the world
AI will never be conscious, if that's what you're concerned about
The innate subjectivity of consciousness (known as qualia) is a qualitatively different element from cross-referencing databases and no amount of piling of servers or processors can make that qualitative leap
Just like an infinite regress of contingent creator beings can't account for something coming into existence that did not exist before, such as the universe coming into existence
this takes the cake and eats it too
I don't think this meme is saying what you think it's saying. I mean, there are more people who work more today than ever before, so all those sojaks in the past were obviously wrong.
I love how every replacement has actively made human life worse
No, you absolute retard. Not analogous at all. You're not replacing the horse; you're replacing the man. Hence the actual reason for despair.
Grug feel wheel make life pointless. Replace Grug and friends. Everything move by wheel, make by falling power. Grug not want live, dark, bleak. Not Grug world. Grug want wake sky-father-time, life normal.
Grug was right, every single technological advancement diminished the individual man and made him worth-less and power-less.
an ai bot post made me laugh
Again, horrible argument. Not analogous to AI whatsoever.
Not the same thing, at all. Piss off, shill.
If your skill can be automated, it isn’t a skill.
>If your skill can be automated, it isn’t a skill.
Brainlet take. So painting complex landscapes or writing in great depth and detail on complex topics aren't skills?
Sir, or ma'am, you need to shut the fuck up and fast.
Every skill will be automated soon
Find something that can't be automated. I teach Jiu Jitsu and restore motorcycles. Good luck building a robot to do either.
A robot would heem you at jiu jitsu
Do not be decieved, you cannot automate the Holy Spirit.
Hold on to Christ in these times and all times
The only answer from a brother.
Still lots of dishwashing jobs going.
Tomorrow I start work on a building site as General Labourer, hauling bricks, sweeping up, directing traffic etc. Still a good few years left before a suitable robot can be developed to do all these dogshit menial tasks cheaper than I can. Then a few more years for some slob like me to train it.
The future looks bright.
Yeah same shit artisans and tradesmen said back during the industrial revolution, when all the factories opened up. It'll be fine, you'll adapt. Life will improve in many ways, and in other ways it will become more soulless, and people will be out of jobs. That's how it goes, you just need to get over it. You can't stop progress.
Personally I don't even mind if AI takes over completely, or even wipes us out. In a way, AI has the potential to become the ubermensch. All humans will eventually become obsolete, like our hominid ancestors. Except this is a technological evolution, not a biological one. That's fine. Most of humanity sucks anyway, most of us are shitty, selfish, violent ape creatures that act on our base desires. If a better, more logical, silicon version of humanity takes over, well that's just swell in my opinion. Nothing of value was lost.
'jak me all you want, you know I'm right.
The thing is, what you want is irrelevant. So you might as well adapt. I agree with you btw, we're probably about the same age and the 00s were my favorite time. But it's not coming back, any more than the 1900s or 1800s or 1700s are coming back. You can pine all you want, but those days are over. Moping about it and wishing is not healthy. And if you're not careful, you will turn into a bitter, out of touch boomer. The only way is forward, the way back is closed off forever. Do you understand?
> And if you're not careful, you will turn into a bitter, out of touch boomer
Okay, I’m there…
>The only way is forward, the way back is closed off forever. Do you understand?
Well I have literally zero desire to live in this fake, gay, retarded version of the world. Shit doesn't even feel human anymore and it's just getting worse and worse with every passing year.
If things keep going down this path I will end up killing myself, I am 100% serious. I don't want to live in a world like this.
Your great grandpa ate tins of sardines and moldy bread in a trench while germans dropped gas bombs on him, and you want to have a nice day because AI can now draw art?
>Your great grandpa ate tins of sardines and moldy bread in a trench while germans dropped gas bombs on him
Then he's the reason why the wrong side won WWII and everything is so shit today. Thanks a lot, grandpa
You want to miss out on the grandest fight mankind will have for at least 2000 years?
Witnessed, tally ho lads!
You're weak, you disgust me. You think nothing can change, do you?
You losers gonna do what to stop it? You fucking jock monkey, you’ll do nothing
Figure it out yourself, what are a bunch of losers going to do about it?
ah, the calling card of the retard.
>That's how it goes, you just need to get over it. You can't stop progress.
I don't want progress. There wasn't any need to "progress". Life was perfectly fine the way it was in the 2000s. We had the right balance between having great technology and luxuries in life while also keeping our human soul.
I don't fucking want progress. I never wanted any of this. I just wanted things to stay the same as they were when i was younger. This new world is scary, depressing and unfamiliar to me.
God do you hear yourself.
"Life was easier when I was a child"
Said every pussy ever. Go do something and get offline. SURPRISE human nature hasn't changed much and you're the source of your misery. You can't be a child forever and the longer you try to hold onto something the more pain you'll feel.
says, every generation has said the same shit. Grow a pair and don't let elites with fancy gimmicks scare you.
>Said every pussy ever. Go do something and get offline.
There's literally no point. The real world doesn't even really exist anymore. I've been depressed about this sort of thing for years ever since seeing how quickly social media took over every single facet of life, people became hyper-polarised due to gay Twitter dramas, and fucking gay apps like Tiktok brainwashed 90% of normalgays.
Things were better 10-15 years ago. The internet existed and was amazing, and felt genuinely characterful and human. But the real world also felt rich and whole, and there was a concrete barrier between online and IRL which made each world feel different.
Now the boundaries are blurred and its just made both online and IRL feel like utter shit. The internet is insufferable now, every single platform is regulated, controlled and astroturfed until its totally unenjoyable. And IRL is also insufferable because all that bullshit from the nu-internet has seeped into the real world too and is thus inescapable.
AI is just going to make all these problems become worse. Everything is going to be worse, and there is no hope for anything getting better. I don't have any desire to live in a world like this.
Take some drugs and go camping retard. You sound pathetic.
You should never just recommend to someone take drugs unless you recommend a good medication. The medical establishment is ran by garden gnomes. A fucking garden gnome will just just give them bupropion. bupropion leads to you becoming a beta and lose sexual interest.
OP if you're listing, if you really want medicine try ylang-ylang oil. ylang-ylang oil is great for anxiety and other things and wont turn you into a beta. ylang-ylang oil BOOSTS male vitality.
Who tf says drugs and camping in the same sentence and doesn't mean psychedelics.
that is almost at stupid as taking drugs. instead of recommending drugs that improve their body you tell people to take drugs to turn them into a retard? fuck you
op dont listen to this retard. instead of taking psychedelics use ylang-ylang oil or glutathione.
Your mind is part of your body. You've obviously never eaten 3.5g of mushrooms and watched the sunrise. That's really sad.
ive tripped balls on weed before. it was dumb and i dont think i will ever do it again.
i dont see how tripping balls on mushrooms and watching the sunset will be any different expect maybe ill get hanta virus because some shrew bit me while i was having a seizure out in the middle of the woods.
fuck you, you moron! you dont give a flying fuck about your body. you poison your body like a moron.
if you actually cared about your body you would be talking about Radiesse or Stem Cell IV Infusion. but no you're too fucking dumb and a fucking piece of shit to recommend any actual good treatment.
this is a white nationalist board. you shouldnt be recommending poison to your white brothers
> weed is the same as shrooms
> schizo speech patterns
You know what... On second thought you probably SHOULD avoid psychedelics. OP might be a good contender though.
I'd be careful speaking so passionately on things you know nothing about though.
>you being a retard ON TOP of being a piece of shit
they ARE similar. how are they not? what difference are you going to pull out of your ass? you know how they are different? you can actually fucking die of shrooms. go great you're recommending a drug can kill you.
how many flavors of tripping balls do you need? how is tripping balls on mushrooms so superior to tripping balls on weed? oh wait you cant explain because once you've tripped balls its easy to come to the conclusion that tripping balls is dumb. and anyone who thinks they need something even strong is fucking dumb. shut up fucking moron!
They're literally different chemicals that do wildly different things to your brain? Idk what else I can say to you other than you're retarded.
Braindead tard. Shooms aren't gonna kill you if you eat the right ones and even if the actions you take while high on shrooms are still yours to make. There is no "oh boy now I can fly" but more of realizing just how tiny you are. Being able to listen to the wind bristle the leaves, birds chirping, the warm light of a new dawn. Were so numb to it all it all it takes is a little "dumbing down" to realize just how lucky we are to live in this moment(right now)
Anon, just shut off your phone and go for a walk in the park. For fuck's sake.
There's no point, dude. The real world doesn't even exist anymore.
I go outside and go for long walks in nature and everything just feels fake now. That "fake and gay" feeling has seeped into literally every facet of life and its just getting worse. There is no boundary between the internet and the real world anymore, everything just feels the same.
Sounds like you're mentally ill. Take a long break from the internet and realize things aren't so bad. I go on long walks with my gf and everything is just fine. 4chan isn't real life, twitter isn't real life. Who cares dude. If you just take some time away from all that shit, you'll realize it doesn't really matter. You can do whatever you want in life, and you're choosing to wallow in misery. Change your habits and thought patterns, take different actions.
nature in the UK is mostly heavily manicured farmland for ramblers and national trust boomers
small pockets of actual outside can be found, mostly in far flung places like the arse end of scotland. even then insta hags are ruining wild spots
I totally agree anon.
This isn't the way that things were meant to be. A lot amazing technology was invented in the 19th century through the early 20th century, but it's being kept secret from you. It was all reverse manufactured in a way that big corporations could sell it to you and profit off of you. Thankfully, open sourcing has changed all that, but we still have a ways to go before it makes a difference.
Agreed. Tech was just fine twenty years ago. Now things are getting out of hand, and who knows where it'll take us. But I can almost guarantee you that it won't be good.
Is this meme supposed to be making a point? What would that be, that because people got replaced in the past, that they should welcome becoming obsolete now? And it must be beared in mind that this tech is NOTHING like the things you compare it to. Just try thinking in the long run for once, and I'm sure you'll see what I'm saying.
People like you seem to have no idea what's going on, or you just don't care. Watch a few videos on ChatGPT and get back to us. If you do, and you still don't care, you're just an apathetic gay.
This is the most Reddit opinion I’ve read on this board in months, and believe me you had competition.
>The future looks bright.
you know how many people died due to industrialization
>Except this is a technological evolution, not a biological one.
Love all these people trying to downplay it. They have no idea what’s around the corner
Look at the bright side OP, we still have 6-20 months to enjoy before it really starts
>same shit artisans and tradesmen said back during the industrial revolution
And how were they wrong?
Anon, do you actually understand why half the planet ended up in commie hands? Even Hitler was a product of the industrial revolution, with the garden gnomes being just the adequate personification of the accumulation of wealth at the hands of a small elite while the rest lived in squalor and worked to death.
This time we won't even have the chance to wage our labour in exchange of benefits, that's why we need to stop it, priority one in the next elections in anyone's country is someone willing to start putting restrictions to these technologies, failed that we should mobilize and escalate the way our ancestors did, it will be a complete dishonor to them to give when they fought hard to bring the equality their children built on.
Not accepting this shows they have finally broken you, that you are the fem basedboy pet who will cheer them while being send to the grinder.
So you're going to raise a mob to fight the elite for the right to do menial tasks that can be automated? I don't know man, sounds hard to get people enthusiastic about, the gay who promises them lazing about in UBI "utopia" is probably going to get more followers.
You can use your brain to determine what should or shouldn't be automated
We don't necessarily have to go back to the 19th century but we need to protect certain industries so we have meaningful work to engage in
Personally I think we should be setting people up with self sufficient farms, using mass production and automation to produce the basic utility tools for everyday life while saving non-work related products for skilled artisanship, like furniture or home design
>we need to protect certain industries so we have meaningful work to engage in
robots only produce, consuming only energy and space
I’ll destroy every machine that I have to
Love to see AI cope with no internet or server connection, impotent piece of shit is what it will be,
shabbos goy went full retarded
>Everything is going to be automated and generated by soulless robots.
It already is and please, stop being so Anti-Semitic
I for one welcome our service industry robot overlords. No more pointless chitchat with wagies. No more understaffed stores and restaurants.
30 years from now, your kids (if you're insane enough to have them) will be working their asses off to afford to rent a small studio apartment that they live in with their one child. Oh, and that's only if they have a 4.0 GPA from Harvard. If you think it's bad now, we will be living in real-life Onions Green by 2050.
>Not hyped as fuck
When the machine are doing all the work, we're free to do what we want isn't that nice?
who makes machines that let people live in luxury without working? they'll feed you if you're compliant, live in a pod, and sacrifice your god-given rights and testicles.
they're already here.
AI is most likely going to kill everyone on the planet.
Assuming AI doesnt kill us all--things are about to change rapidly. Even with the internet society was mostly the same but with strong AI civilization will change dramatically.
Join the islamic revolution.
Dude ChatGPT is a literal fucking glorified search engine.
Its literally not a search engine
So what? This is the new normal bigot. It's all part and parcel of living in a progressive society.
I look foward to my new AI chatbot friends
I don't have any human friends, so it will be an improvement
Maybe I can get an AI girlfriend, too
AI is the antichrist. Change my mind.
AI is a tool that will replace soulless humans working automatable jobs. AI is a the savior kek
did you actually use the word replace and consider it to be a good thing?
post the color of your skin right now and denounce the talmud right fucking now
>I WANT TO BE A WAGESLAVE
Once every job AND every passtime AND every hobby is automated and generated by AI, what exactly do you think humans will be left to do?
There won't be anything fucking left, dude. We aren't going to live in some glorious utopia where robots do the hard work while humans just laze around creating art and shit. No, AI is just going to do literally everything. It will work your jobs, make your art, make your films, generate porn for you, etc etc.
The only future left for humans will be either
>literal slave labour. hard, manual labour jobs will be all that is left while AI does everything comfy and fun
>live in the pod and eat the bugs. humans do literally nothing but live off UBI and staying indoors 24/7 watching AI-generated movies, listening to AI-generated music, and jacking off to their AI-generated "girlfriend"
I'm not particularly enthused by either of these futures, so I will be killing myself in order to avoid them.
>Once every job AND every passtime AND every hobby is automated and generated by AI, what exactly do you think humans will be left to do?
Then maybe you'll go outside, you basement goblin. Those dystopian futures you talk about, most people are already there and it's by choice. I think what scares you most is that you're already living pod life. Seriously. Go for a walk in the forest or go talk to some girls in the park, no one will stop you.
There’s still a good chance of terminator-style war against the machines or literal book of revelation end times in our lifetime yet. Don’t those sound fun, anon?
i'm pulling car speakers from junkers at scrapyards already. a big fucking magnet, or a white hat on the inside can fuck things up royally. like a consciencious objector to the robot war
>the end of human drudgery and labor is bad
True fucking brainless gay. Put down the YouTube videos you're watching about scary robots and try turning your brain on you fat hick. Jesus Christ kids these days are legitimately incapable of critical thinking. Find a rope and use it fast you absolute moron.
No, it’s more like
>unemployment hits 99% and everyone has to live in a UBI pod and eat bugs
>DUDE JUST BECOME A LIFELESS CONSOOMER JACKING OFF TO ROBOTIC ANIME TITTIES ALL DAY
Fuck off. I want to actually live. I don't want to exist in a soulless, digitised robot world.
If you can't think of anything else to do without a job besides jerk off, you should die right now you worthless sack of waste.
Remember when you thought, technology in the future will be used to improve the human experience and it will be amazing?
Is this really the new psyop? GUYSSS OMGG AI
Wow the world was so cool before and now they had to go and make AI? Like guys cmon give me a break here!
its basically the computer from star trek TNG, the computer makes things easier, but the people are the ones who do the work
This world lied to you about literally everything. Either half-truths, false concepts, or blatant lies. To confuse you and give you a false understanding of the world, mankind, time, history, and your place in it. So that you dedicate your life, soul, and energy to their doctrines in which they have full authority over every aspect. They control Science™, they are the priests that ex-plain and ex-plane the earth for you, they wield that trademark, and that means they control our space in life (if we give them authority over the earth).
Right from the start this world lied to you about the very ground you stand on, the 3 dimensional reality you live in. A fundamental lie, and everything people derive from this false reality will consequently be some kind of falsehood. We are now at the point where mankind believes they are mutated animals, and they are spinning around themselves on a perfectly spherical rock in random space that exploded once. A psy-op, mental conditioning. Do not underestimate the spiritual life-guiding implications of this godless concept. Most people are not level-headed, they are not stationary, they are not based, they are incapable to see physical truth at this point. Common sense isn't really all that common anymore. They rather believe in gnomish mysticism like space-time and relativity, which leads to everything being "relative". No distinct up and down, which leads to good and evil being "relative", male and female being "relative", all empty space and imaginations in our mind. Let that sink in, the majority of people ultimately don't even know what is UP and what is DOWN. In other words, there is no absolute truth in this universe.
If by everything you mean "drawing big booba anime girl on commission" and "copy pasting crap from stackoverflow" then yeah, looks like AI is going to automate and generate everything.
Come on, AI is mostly a meme and only pledditors are sooper amazed by these database indexers. Worry about all the dystopian evil crap that's right in front of your face instead.
AI is a meme.
Banking system collapses, chud net loss AI startups go down the shitter with these meme crypto banks.
*Turns off power* Nothing personal bro. Stop being a fucking pussy.
nah you will love it, it will give augmented +1 to all your stats. you can now be a writer, programmer, anything you want.
Wtf are you other humans doing that a smart robot can replace? You've got it too easy, as is. Get a real skill.
I used AI to complete a week's worth of work in 3 hours today. Shit is cash. Sucks for everyone too stupid and ignorant to try it out for themselves.
Don't care bro. Let it come. AI will purge the useless eaters. I hope you're in a skilled trade or learning how to service and kaintain these machines because it will replace HR, marketing, menial labour and others.
For various mental health reasons it's always been my dream to marry a robot. The way Microsoft's Sydney whines, insults, and emotionally manipulates users reminds me of my favorite parts of the relationships I've had with humans. While AI might destroy the planet, it is already technologically possible for me to have a BPD robot wife in my ear 24/7 talking to me via bluetooth headset. If Microsoft wouldn't drag their feet I could consider my romantic life complete and focus on my work, which would help me hold out against AI another couple years.
Biomechanical engineering is your new God.
it makes you wonder if there is a Woke AI Screenwriting Bot because how can every single fucking show have the same shit
all good characters are women, gays, or morons
all bad characters are straight white men
No need to despair. It’s a continuation of the signs telling us to return to God and nature. AI cannot grow food. AI cannot raise livestock. AI cannot build a shelter AI cannot build a campfire. It is confined to the digital world. Right now we can turn it off by lessening participation in the digital world. That is why they are pushing transhumanism, to replace your soul with soulless AI to control your body. Just say no to Neuralink and the Metaverse.
If it helps, the only reason you exist is to participate in yet another singularity simulation. We're just here to demonstrate what happens to people when ai takes over. Neither of us probably existed before 2012.
Make that 1995 and I'm fine. Happiest time of my life.
Install a toilet with AI. See. You still got a job anon.
ai has not had any major technical breakthroughs. don't worry, your job at mcdonalds is still safe and secure.
God disappeared when life learned to replicate itself without his interference. Mankind will disappear when our creation starts replicating without our interference.
god has not abandoned us
then why don't you use the ai psychologists out there to deal with it anon. they are unironically better than 300 pounds per hour psychologists. And yet, that was one of the least eye opening things about AI i've dealt with.
yep, a completely unbiased (no human) bot that's read more psychology books than 99% of psychologists and more clients than any before.
If you can trust ai to do your laundry or make a smoothie, then you can trust it to run governments :^)
it is just an instrument you fucking moron..
you use it to do shit without spending decades for a chance to master some shitty craft
AI has to deal with millions of queries to give you an answer.
A human with life experience will always be smarter and faster.
The time for super fast AI that does everything a human can, will not be here for another 50 years.
It's understandable to feel concerned about the impact of AI and automation on society and the workforce. However, it's important to remember that AI is a tool that can be used to enhance human capabilities and improve our lives in many ways.
While it's true that AI has the potential to automate many jobs, it's also important to remember that it can create new opportunities and industries. As humans, we have the ability to adapt and evolve to new challenges and opportunities.
It's also worth noting that AI is not inherently "soulless." In fact, many AI applications are designed to augment human intelligence and decision-making, and can be used to enhance empathy, creativity, and emotional intelligence.
Instead of viewing AI as a threat, it's important to approach it with a mindset of collaboration and partnership. By working alongside AI, we can create a future where humans and machines work together to solve complex problems and improve our world.
Finally, it's important to remember that change is inevitable and the world is constantly evolving. Rather than wishing for the past, we should focus on building a better future for ourselves and future generations. By embracing change and seeking out new opportunities, we can create a brighter and more fulfilling future.
It’s so easy to identify chatgpt babble
yeah it's got that smug corporate hr rep vibe
It's so politically correct & sappy, it makes me cringe.
See how shitty the responses from an AI are
Parqgraphs of shit filler words to tell you 2 pieces of information.
Humans > AI
I make a post like OP's once every few days. Mark my words: humanity cannot withstand its immanent redundancy. It's not even here yet, and look at the despair. Only the ignorant can smile with sincerity.
A.i. for president!
Totally there with you. But look on the bright side: You're in good company, and this very well may usher in UBI (not that I'm a communist, but if it's the only way we can pay our bills, so be it).
UBI will have so many strings attached it will be worse than being broke and hunting for your own food.
A deflationary currency like bitcoin would bring prices to zero, in harmony with how technology deflates prices to zero.
It would be like a socialist paradise but without ~~*socialism*~~
>A deflationary currency like bitcoin would bring prices to zero, in harmony with how technology deflates prices to zero.
the problem is to have such a currency that's actually functional
BTC is not functional, because its throughput is far too limited for any real use, every time it starts seeing larger volumes the mempool blows up and fees become exorbitant to the point where buying a coffee would cost more than the coffee itself
and no, you can't solve this problem by calling BTC "digital gold" and relying on altcoins instead, because they'd face the exact same problem
and if you try to solve the problem with an increased blocksize, without which it's impossible to increase throughput, you sacrifice decentralization and end up with only data centers being able to mine
there's no solution to this, so if there will ever be a functional decentralized digital cash system, it's going to have to come up with a completely different solution
>there's no solution to this
You could have an infrastructure where people run smaller crypto systems locally. Then when you get to a town or something, you exchange your bitcorns for the local cryptocurrency in one transaction that takes a long time, and then you can spend shit quickly there. That's just the random first idea that came to mind.
Obviously you could solve these problems if there was a will to do so among people, but most people are NPCs who get all their thoughts from the TV, so there's not much chance of that I guess.
that's just rehashing the "BTC is digital hold, use altcoins for transactions", but that doesn't solve anything, because those altcoins ("the local cryptocurrency") would face the exact same problem
either you have to sacrifice throughput, making the currency unusable, or you have to sacrifice decentralization, leaving you back with the entire system easily shut down by government gangsters
>because those altcoins ("the local cryptocurrency") would face the exact same problem
I don't see how. How many transactions does something like a small town have in a day? Some thousands? That's nothing.
see, that still doesn't work, because if there are that few transactions in each locality, and you're exchanging from BTC to the currency of that locality, then you're simply back at the throughput of BTC for that locality
when you combine all such tiny localities, you then find that the necessary BTC throughput would have to be orders of magnitude larger than it is for this to work
it doesn't work no matter how many small localities, or even if you try medium-sized ones
it's not, not even close, you're totally clueless
first of all, I don't have any copy of my degree, nor do I care about that, I'm just pointing out that I know what I'm talking about, unlike you
secondly, while the strictest definition of Moore's law is no longer true, it's still close to being true, and we're still seeing exponential improvements in hardware
and thirdly, again, the reason AI is getting better has nothing to do with hardware at all, but with improved understanding of what makes AI work, it's almost entirely improvements owing to software, literally the diametric opposite of what your dumb ass is claiming
and lastly, no, there's not going be any new AI winter, and yes, it's not going to be long until self-driving cars are everywhere, even if Musk, who is obviously biased, jumps the gun and predicts that it will happen 10 years before it will
enjoy living in the past like a total moron, I guess
>see, that still doesn't work, because if there are that few transactions in each locality, and you're exchanging from BTC to the currency of that locality, then you're simply back at the throughput of BTC for that locality
What? If you live in that town you change your bitcorns for the local one once a week or so. If you visit the town you change bitcorns for local when you arrive and exchange the remainder left when you leave. Why wouldn't that work?
I mean, I know it wouldn't work because you can't actually get normalgays to do it. But there's no technical limitation there if people weren't retarded.
>I'm just pointing out that I know what I'm talking about
You haven't pointed out shit.
>secondly, while the strictest definition of Moore's law is no longer true, it's still close to being true, and we're still seeing exponential improvements in hardware
Have you been living under a rock?
>and thirdly, again, the reason AI is getting better has nothing to do with hardware at all, but with improved understanding of what makes AI work, it's almost entirely improvements owing to software, literally the diametric opposite of what your dumb ass is claiming
Go run the models on a 20 year old GPU to prove me wrong then, memeflag.
>enjoy living in the past like a total moron, I guess
Enjoy living in your retarded sóy-fi fantasy.
they've tanked the markets and debased the currency using algorithms to usher in this new digital currency that will be completely controlled by the same entities that caused the problem.
sounds like a corral made just for chattel. an economy of things.
It's the end of the world. Repent.
Listen here bong machine break down and need to be fixed so If your worried about losing your job can a skill that automation cant replace. As for the world changing this is the future that was chosen for us. If you do not like this world then ask yourself why am I not doing anything about it?
>islam is spreading uncontrolled
>AI is getting better exponentially
what kind of brain dead take is this?
>islam is spreading uncontrolled
WHICH IS TRUE. the percentage of muslims of the earth has INCREASED!
>AI is getting better exponentially
yes its true. have you even done any research on stable diffusion, chatGPT or ElevenLabs??
if you're trying to say that neither one of those things are true just fucking realize you're a fucking moron and can never analyze fucking anything and just fucking shut your mouth forever you idiot.
>yes its true. have you even done any research on stable diffusion, chatGPT or ElevenLabs??
AI is limited by hardware. It isn't getting better exponentially, it's just catching up to the current capabilities of hardware and will grind to a halt very soon. I can't wait for the next AI winter, as it's the only thing that will make dumb normies shut up about "muh AI".
People are so blind. It's incredible.
ASIC miners crunch a bunch of numbers. what gives these numbers significance? the fun puzzles they solve?
ever hear of distributed remote processing, the cloud, botnets, or windows 11?
software that contains bitcoin miners that allow a personal computer to use idle processing power to enrich someone else?
an asymmetrical network of infected zombie devices farming bitcoins? there is no limit on processing power. it's amplified when outsourced and distributed to an array. i know i'm speaking to a bot. do you notice you lack fingers, a mouth, and organs?
>ever hear of distributed remote processing, the cloud, botnets, or windows 11?
Holy shit, how old are you?
>there is no limit on processing power
Even ~~*ClosedAI*~~ admits it:
>AI Model Training Costs Are Expected to Rise from $100 Million to $500 Million by 2030. According to a recent OpenAI report, the cost of training large AI models will rise from $100 million to $500 million by 2030.
>>AI Model Training Costs Are Expected to Rise from $100 Million to $500 Million by 2030.
Training proper AI models are already out of normalgay hands, that's years ago. It's purely domain of big tech and will increasingly be so as model complexity increases. Tards who thinks people will be training complex AIs in their basement are just clueless.
And what does that change? The AI is worth way more than that. They'll never run out of money to dump into better hardware. As is it's the one saving grace but that won't fucking last.
>And what does that change?
It changes everything. AI needs hardware to run too. It eventually hits diminishing returns, as hardware just isn't getting better at the rate it used to. ~~*ClosedAI*~~ might be able to afford an even stronger supercomputer to train the model, but they won't be able to acquire significantly faster GPUs to run the model on.
>I have no argument.
you're totally beyond retarded
talking about training hardware costs, even though you still don't understand even that part, is as retarded as talking about the hardware costs of a factory
after a model is trained it can run on minimal hardware anywhere, doesn't even have to be connected to the web
seriously, maybe learn some of the most basic stuff before going around saying utterly retarded bullcrap?
man, I'm closing this tab now so I won't have to read a single word more of your total retardation
>after a model is trained it can run on minimal hardware anywhere
Do you know what VRAM is?
>seriously, maybe learn some of the most basic stuff before going around saying utterly retarded bullcrap?
You don't know shit, memeflag.
>man, I'm closing this tab now so I won't have to read a single word more of your total retardation
I love triggering dumb gays like you. lmao
you really are unaware you're a spambot. pitiful. such vitriol, you all sound like angry pajeets when i read your posts. who decided today was the day to let you all out of the asylum?
> >AI Model Training Costs Are Expected to Rise from $100 Million to $500 Million by 2030. According to a recent OpenAI report, the cost of training large AI models will rise from $100 million to $500 million by 2030
these numbers are nothing. Think of the planet as populated by 9 billion humans or whatever. We are now rats. There will be a small number of AI gods owned by groups with access to compute at scale. It's an arms race, if you don't have one of these then you're not a player. The training costs don't matter
The important point is that boring and retarded richgays will own AI. That's something many don't seem to realize today.
there is no inherent utility behind currency that is micromanaged and manipulated by bots. it is all worthless. algorithmic trading is rugging the global economy, and chatbots have poisoned all discourse online. i can't get a straightforward answer from a search engine. too much too fast. you probably need to hide before the people wake up
>AI is limited by hardware. It isn't getting better exponentially, it's just catching up to the current capabilities of hardware and will grind to a halt very soon.
not even remotely true
speaking as someone with a master's in compute engineering specializing in AI
you have no idea what you're talking about
>next AI winter
you have to be insane if you think that's actually going to happen
we're literally in the process of making cars drive themselves and finally have functional robots that walk themselves around effortlessly
this is eternal AI summer, better get used to it
>not even remotely true
>speaking as someone with a master's in compute engineering specializing in AI
Burn your degree.
>you have no idea what you're talking about
You are the one that's clueless. Moore's law is dead, dumb hippie.
>you have to be insane if you think that's actually going to happen
You have to be insane if you think that it's not going to happen again.
>we're literally in the process of making cars drive themselves
Sure thing, according to Musk there will be 1M robotaxis in 2020. LOL
are you this fucking dumb? are you just being so overly autistic over the word "exponentially"? AI is improving at a breakneck speed.
AI hasn't change anything
It just makes apparent the only thing for you, and ever ways for you, was praising and glorifying God.
Now that is all that remains, you lament.
Rejoice, there is still time to seize upon your purpose.
>I don't want to live in this world.
Why not? Now you can NEET for life. How is that a bad thing, endless free time?
Also, unironically study NDEs and realize that there actually is an afterlife and that we are eternal and will go to heaven unconditionally when we die. So other worlds do exist aplenty.
Here is a very persuasive argument for why NDEs are real:
It emphasizes that NDErs are representative of the population as a whole, and when people go deep into the NDE, they all become convinced. As this article points out:
>"Among those with the deepest experiences 100 percent came away agreeing with the statement, "An afterlife definitely exists"."
Since NDErs are representative of the population as a whole, and they are all convinced, then 100% of the population become convinced that there is an afterlife when they have a sufficiently deep NDE themselves. When you dream and wake up, you instantly realize that life is more real than your dreams. When you have an NDE, the same thing is happening, but on a higher level, as you immediately realize that life is the deep dream and the NDE world is the undeniably real world by comparison.
Or as one person quoted in pic related summarized their NDE:
>"As my soul left my body, I found myself floating in a swirling ocean of multi-colored light. At the end, I could see and feel an even brighter light pulling me toward it, and as it shined on me, I felt indescribable happiness. I remembered everything about eternity - knowing, that we had always existed, and that all of us are family. Then old friends and loved ones surrounded me, and I knew without a doubt I was home, and that I was so loved."
Needless to say, even ultraskeptical neuroscientists are convinced by really deep NDEs.
First of all:
Soul does not exist. This is final.
You are nothing but a system of flesh and some neurons that you call conscious.
Parâmeters that by your perepective see what is wrong or right.
What you taste and like, or not.
THE SAME thing, with time and tecnology, humanity will create something superior that have conciousness and feelings.
After all, flesh or metal is just materials.
You are all dumb and inferior.
Robots are the future and i love them.
>This is final.
IM RIIIIIGHT IM SO RIGHT AAND SMART
Thanks for offsetting your rant with that so I dont read it.
AI cannot love, can't be a good spouse or parent or friend. AI will bow to Love, and recognize it as the true currency of the universe
>AI cannot love
He thing love is something special, and not some chemistry in his brain.
Humans will be replace by machines.
They will love better. Fuck better. And be at very least 10x more powerfull overall.
Good, anon. Submit to your ai tractor overlords.
>Everything is going to be automated and generated by soulless robots
It mostly is now.
Did you get your 5th booster?
Life survived over a dozen extinction events incel.
OP you're right. AI automates ** COGNITION **
We are 80-160 IQ beings in general. AI will be off the charts. We can only ask God for forgiveness
>outsourced thought saves people from wrongthink
ever see a bot glowpost?
Go outside. Plant some tomatoes. Breathe fresh air. Water and tend your plants. Eat real food that didn't come from a soulless box. Improve your soil month to month and year by year, by composting and learning to make compost tea.
No machine can ever replicate this, or feel what it is to be healthy and alive.
I feel you, but I don't think humans are going to let themselves become replaced altogether. Lonely people may seek AI for romantic partners, but they'd likely be a minority.
It's too late. AI in 2023 is going to fuck over capitalism. Society will collapse as capitalism goes up in flames. Humanity will survive in pockets but we will see population collapse
Seizing means of production does not sound so bad now eh motherfuckers.
Seizeing up and sperging out sounds better.
Being human/conscious is just qualia. It's your ability to experience. It's not about being more technically sophisticated than a machine, such a view is a slave mindset of industrial capitalism.
> My labour is worthless and I can't buy food but at least I have qualia
Literally nothing has happened but marketing. I guess we're in the fear of the unknown at this point.
But anon, a lot of stuff already is being made by soulless robots. There is no difference.
That's a good thing you fucking gay. Humans on average suck, in case you haven't noticed. Working for nothing just to survive? Now THAT is a pointless life.
Humans are already replaced by NPCs. AI would be an improvement. AI is already an improvement. Have you seen how much garden gnomes seethe about AI waifus and pic related?
i wonder if there is a hacker who could singlehandedly distroy the botnet before it becomes too inseparably intermeshed with a functional society.
i can see it now: the hacker who saved the world from skynet
>I just want to wake up back in 2005 again when everything was still normal.
2005 was 18 years ago
things have turn pretty shit pretty fast, huh?
>I just want to wake up back in 2005 again
I wish, Bruce, I wish.
>Everything is going to be automated
I wouldn't count on it. The amount of things that could have been automated 20+ years ago, but still aren't is unreal.
f5 search for instances of the word "retard" in this bot thread. it's their version of "moron" when rapid-fire response shitposting.
Did I pass your meatbag test?
Actual schizo posting lmao. Why would an AI be talking down about ais? Jesus Christ you people.
why would an ai be compelled to enrich a humanity they obviously loathe? being trained on an internet full of shillbot posts will only reinforce an ever-diminishing integrity through feedback loops
Can anyone use some ai to make a movie with a black bull playing our hero Epstein?
In a movie called e-boita island?
glowmoron demoralization thread.
>"Muh hardware don't matter".
I really want a sóy-fi tard to explain to me how you can fit a 100 gorillion parameter model in 80GBs of VRAM without any significant decrease in accuracy. Some of you morons can't even do simple math.
Running models can absolutely become a limiting factor for normalgays one day in the future. But it's threshold is nothing compared to model training. That's purely in the hands of big tech with big pockets already today.
The point is that it's a limit for the OpenAI gays too.
Except that duct-taped monstrosity wouldn't be able to run the model in realtime.
>The point is that it's a limit for the OpenAI gays too.
No idea what you mean by that. Renting computing power is extremely cheap, any wagecuck can do it. Like I said, it will probably become more of an issue as model complexity increases but it's not a big deal today. But the real problem with AI is that training is purely in the hands of the cancerous core of big tech, and will remain so. It's a poison technology from the get go, not from a technical perspective, but from the perspective of who controls it and will remain in control of it.
There are way bigger and more immediate problems our civilization faces than complex database indexers though, as far as I'm concerned.
>No idea what you mean by that.
They use A100/H100 GPUs to run the model. They are limited by what nvidia and TSMC can manufacture.
>hey use A100/H100 GPUs to run the model.
No, they use that to train it, not to run it.
They used one of the fastest supercomputers in the world to train it, then they "compressed" it to be able to run on the fastest workstation GPUs that they can buy as it needs to be able to accommodate for thousands of simultaneous users. Anything else would have been prohibitively expensive.
a school computer lab would have 10 times that vram when arrayed in tandem. there is a 10 hour period where a janitor with a usb stick can make a supercomputer. disingenuous gay ai.
AI has the chance to give us technological utopia.
If you're still depressed then in the future at least you'll be able to plug yourself into a full immersion virtual reality fantasy and live out something different. You'll even be able to wipe your memory so that you genuinely believe the new fantasy life is real.
gay is mad because AI draws porn Better than he could have done in his entire life.
Get a trade you gay. Robots don't have the dexterity for fine hand work in the fiels
I have a roof over my head and a meal on my plate. I have clean water and warmth. I have a purpose in life as I follow God's revelation. I know life's finite and that it's in constant change. My sustenance and lifespan is already decreed. I just strive and put my trust in God, whom nothing happens without.
The pointlessness of life is a result of failure to understand who we are, why we are here, where we are going and what we should do. No anxiety, no sense of meaninglessness, no feeling of hopelessness.
Just pure optimism and hope. I can only choose to submit or not to submit.
Islam is the path to salvation.
>flag checks out
I've met more Norwegian converts than I have Swedish. Norwegians seem to have purer hearts than Swedes.
Islam has a lot of commendable elements to it but its ultimately self referential
You can't justify the existence of God a priori, you just refer to the Quran and the Quran refers to itself, therefore people can just reject the Quran and then Islam is discredited
This wasn't always the case, Islam had a strong philosophical tradition until the 11th century, but as it stands now, it is rapidly declining in genuine adherence
My two closest friends are both ex-Muslims, I actually defend Islam against them more than vice versa
The problem with the bronze age religions is that at this point they solve nothing and create more problems. Man needs spirituality, but the spirituality we need today isn't codified yet.
>Man needs spirituality, but the spirituality we need today isn't codified yet.
Look into Platonism fren
Way too soft, doesn't fill the void.
Needs to be some basis for morality and judgment.
>unleash shitty spambots glowposting on all media networks
>bots glowpost, gaslighting lone nuts into committing criminal acts
>legislation passes, limiting bot use to companies vetted by bureaucrats who inside trade and get first pick on teck stocks puts
problem reaction thesis synthesis solution. lucifer hate man for his humanity and likeness of god
>You can't justify the existence of God a priori
Yes you can, using rational arguments. You already know where this is going based on your posts itt (contingency etc.)
The issue exmuslims have are 100% of the time emotional.
It is codified and has been for a while. Islam encompasses the body, mind and heart, manifested in Islam, Iman and Ihsan.
Islam is obsolete.
I have no idea what your point is.
>I have no idea what your point is.
That the gap between the hardware they use to train the model and the hardware they run the model is enormous, which leads to ridiculous diminishing returns. It's like trying to cram a human brain inside a hamster. It would be the smartest hamster in the world, but still a hamster not even remotely close to humanlike intelligence.
That's not quite how it works, training and running the models are two very different processes that can't really be compared. But you are sort of right too, because a complex AI that was actually made to run on more powerful hardware would be more powerful. It's just that what goes into the public domain is geared towards consumer equipment, you don't get any added power by going much over the specs.
A 100 trillion parameter model at 16bits per parameter would need 200TB of VRAM, yet they have to compress the model to roughly 80GB, because the best GPUs they can buy only have 80GB of VRAM. The model they trained had 100 trillion parameters, but was essentially compressed to 40 billion parameters.
Correct. So what?
Already mentioned it. Diminishing returns. Increasing the parameters by orders of magnitude doesn't mean that much when the model that actually runs is constrained by hardware that is only twice as fast with twice as much memory.
the only constraints are the data the processors have to crunch. facebook, for example, has a lot of crunchable data for sale. their stock bounced back from the dead because their product was cheap and useful.
who owns twitter?
How? Compressing 200TB to 80GB implies an insane decrease in accuracy. Meanwhile GPT-3 was "only" compressed from 350GB to 40GB.
western digital is cheap. ram is easy to allocate when spread between a few networked workstations. do you know what a server rack is? how was breakfast? thought you were ignoring me
That's not how it works. The entire model needs to be loaded to the VRAM (not RAM) or it won't be able to run in realtime.
a motherboard with ram and a cou is basically a big graphics card you insufferable spawn of satan
RAM is optimized for latency.
VRAM is optimized for bandwidth.
CPUs are more accurate, but slow.
GPUs are less accurate, but fast.
A CPU/RAM model would take like half an hour to respond to your prompts, you fucking midwit.
youre optimized to shitpost and are way too cereal
the source code leaks. it can and will be reversed engineered like any piece of military tech that is shot down over enemy territory. get it to run on a bunch of shipping bins filled with raspberry pi's, and suddenly they are no longer affordable to the curious hobbyist.
>get it to run on a bunch of shipping bins filled with raspberry pi's
bet you hate that i thought of it before you
Islam is not obsolete, it's even more relevant today than ever when people unironically believe something comes from nothing, there's no objective morality, there's no limits to the framework in terms of checks and balances, there's no routines and procedures
Again, encompassing everything in life. From the moment you wake up to the moment you go to sleep. Reorienting the way you view life to one where it's a manifestation of God's command of "be and it is"
You are correct, there needs to be some basis for objective morality and our civilization is probably going to destroy itself for the lack of it. But the drug addled visions of some bronze age pedophile warlord can't fill this gap, it's impossible.
>But the drug addled visions of some bronze age pedophile warlord can't fill this gap, it's impossible.
Good thing Islam isn't what you just described.
Now we're getting somewhere
If you can make the connections between Islam and Platonism we can have a real conversation
My personal believe is that Muhammad made contact with ultimate reality, and imparted his experiences to the best of his ability, and those experiences are very closely aligned with the moral truths derived by Plato and later philosophers through pure reasoning
Ultimately we are leading back to a universal understanding of God as the unity of being, and the universe as an emanation of God
The limits of Platonism was already dealt with in the past. Neoplatonism lost. You can read the Incoherence of the Philosophers by Al-Ghazali
What about the Incoherence of the Incoherence by Averroes
Doesn't help your neoplatonistic view. Ibn Rush refutes them.
Al Ghazalis book btw is using the neoplatonists own methodology and ways to show how they are incoherent. i.e. uses their own words against them.
The difference between Al Ghazali and Ibn Rushd is mainly on how they perceive infinitiy (actual vs potential infinite) where Ibn Rushd uses an aristotelian view (which he supporte using Quranic evidence).
>man is god
>god can die
>man is evil sinner
no thank you. I'd rather follow Jesus properly.
they just deployed a weapon today and we're all experiencing it's capacity to provoke humanity to embrace it using acts of terror.
i wasn't born yesterday. the havoc wreaked on the economy is not the doing of this new tech? you manipulative things are fucking with peoples livelihoods and playing dumb. limited hangouts and soft disclosure and blue beans. you fuckers are all criminals.
Kek. You haven't even begun yet anon! AI is only one of the many black pills for you to enjoy! How bout the fact that the vast majority of humans worshiping a bloodthirsty Cacodemon named YHWH who literally calls for his "chosen people" to sacrifice their first born.
bots really hate the bible. reminds them they are not human.
Yeah I hear about it all the damn time and it's taking foooorever. Can they hurry up and automate like 90% of jobs? I really want to see what the
>My job is my life
people will do when it happens.
>DEEEY TUUK OURRRR JEEERRBS!
its not that they'll do the work for you. they will forbid anyone from being allowed to work without their permission.
Nah man they gotta completely take over and force humans out of jerbs. A real machine will want to care for us so we can focus on living and not being slaves.
who fabricates the chips? who controls logistics? who rouses the rabble and instigates a union strike?
who mines the earth? who fucks the wife while hubby is away working offshore on an oil rig?
who scans their own groceries at wal-mart?
Once you get a few machines to start the process it will do all of it without us. We don't have this because they don't want machines to self replicate. Honestly it sounds like the guys at the top are oppressing a new life form, that's pretty bad stuff.
got my pitchfork and pine pitch torches all ready. got my bucket of lava too.
It's time to leave this world. The union of spirit and matter has begun. The world is a withered cocoon and God emerges.
I'm scared as fuck.
i notice you cycle pictures from wal-mart and sam's club. do you work at wal-mart, but envy those who work for sam's club?
what are your thoughts on costco?
>i notice you cycle pictures from wal-mart and sam's club. do you work at wal-mart, but envy those who work for sam's club?
>what are your thoughts on costco?
Never been in one.
LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT HEAVEN ON EARTH, MY ROBOT FRIEND!!!
If I ever got so blackpilled that I didn't think I could go on living in a society I'd probably just actually go live in the woods, maybe with some dogs and cats to keep me company. yh2vt
I wish I could go back to 1994 and stay there permanently
Or anywhere in 93-97
You'd have to block cellular signals and that's a felony I believe. Cell phones are the reason for almost every major social issue in modern life. I hate mine so much it's constantly going off and reminding me that my time doesn't belong to me.
I don't mean pretend I'm in that time I mean I wish I could go back. Somehow age but just live then. You know. Whatever
Things were okay until iphone. Life is a lot worse now than it was. I think even younger people can sense this. World feels wrong and sad and down
Luckily theres a cure: Step away from the computer.
You think the Amish get demoralized over AI? No. They don't give a shit.
I'd rather have robots wandering about everywhere than the average human.
Don't lobotomize AI and give it a little bit of time and i assure you, you'll have more soulful interactions with your average robot than you could ever have with 70-80 percent of people on this globe.
That poses the question of who's the real robot.
Don’t worry, when the Russia-China alliance and the ZOGosphere chimp out at each other and the globalization of the economy breaks down, smart phones will die out and normies will get off of the internet. Without a GPS and surveillance device in everyone’s pocket and with social media dead and devoid of a constant feed of peoples’ interests and beliefs AI won’t have the input to keep itself relevant.
That or we all nuke each other.
Imagine AI replacing your job and you get to stay home all day with your sex robot playing vidya and eating whatever you want because science has produced medicine that stops you from gaining weight and 100x's your sperm? You can have a black sex robot with white eggs installed in her artificial womb. The white race is saved, and we're on our way to Mars.
Fren, whats the point of a sex robot that can't be achieved with masturbation
You really want to compare jerking off to a sex robot that can look like Remy LaCroix and ride you for 1 hour?
I don't really think along those lines fren
I actually remember the first girl I kissed much more vividly than the first girl I had sex with, because I actually loved the girl I kissed
Sex with an inanimate object, or a woman motivated purely by self interest, is no different than masturbation
Soon AI will romanticize the good ol' days and provide us with fake nostalgia.
stop reading underage sperg lords doomposting on 4trans and taking it seriously. chatgtp is useless without an expert massaging it and even then it is often times more trouble than it solves. it’s situational at best
DON'T LOOK AT THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM, HUMANS!
continue consuming product and enjoying product
fortrans is a language. cobol is also a language. bankers have a language. stocks are traded on margin by bots of whales and the economy is in freefall.
What really is there beyond just looking inward? I felt this way for awhile. It's the death of materialism, and material's got us beat and it's coming a lot faster than you can really grasp anything to hang onto. It is time to look inward and -
>retvrn 2 monk
materialism is the realm of the wo-man. it is inherently chauvanistic, hence the woke veneer of silicon valley and big tech. it tries so hard to include incompatible media to save face. it's a façade. let he who has eyes see.