Well 4chan? What are the political implications of this?? I'm predicting a total, global surveillance state predicated on the misuse of this new technology.
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Well 4chan? What are the political implications of this?? I'm predicting a total, global surveillance state predicated on the misuse of this new technology.
>What are the political implications of this??
Cunnicommander total victory
I'm skeptical, pretty sure they are going to lock everything down
It wouldn't be any different than e-boi art. In some places, e-boi art isn't allowed and some places it is.
This will definitely not be the case, because the generated images can be photorealistic, and that is treated very differently from e-boi type cartoons.
No you are retarded. Even traced e-boi art isn't illegal. But again it depends on the jurisdiction because e-boi art can be illegal.
I'm pretty sure that photorealistic AI generated imagery would fall under the legal definition of a photomanip or they will change the law to make it illegal
It doesn't. You can find tons of it and other AI e-boi art on Pixiv, for one example. But really though
is already happening.
photorealistic *and* sexually explicit though? I seriously doubt it
Or maybe that's exactly what they want. We all know that the powers that be want to normalize pedos because they are pedos themselves.
Ai art is literally the best way to accomplish this, as I see it, because you can justify it by saying it isn't real, which we know is a slipery-slope
interesting theory, but you also know they want to have it both ways, where it's illegal for everyone else but they are above the law
>where it's illegal for everyone else but they are above the law
Isn't that already the case? If they want normalization, then that implies wide acceptance and practice, like casual sex and homossexuality.
A society that rapes its children is a society entirely driven by hedonism, meaning they are very east to control.
At the very least i think that, if my theory is correct, they Will promote a limited normalization, like if it was Just a fetish like scat or bestiality, which are wierd and extreme but not illegal
You never been to pixiv aren't you ? You never seen Daz porns aren't you ?
It's feeled with 18yo characters that look suspiciously like childs...
those aren't generated by an AI manipulating real photos of children, which an AI technically does do because of how it uses its training data
The issue raised in Ashcroft v Free Speech Coalition, which is the SCOTUS case that got e-boicon legalized, is not about whether images are photorealistic. Rather, it was that the very cases that allowed the government to ban CP also made "virtual" CP a legal, viable alternative.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashcroft_v._Free_Speech_Coalition
>Thus, the CPPA prohibited speech for a different reason than anti-child pornography laws. Laws prohibiting the distribution and possession of child pornography ban speech because of the manner in which it is produced, regardless of its serious literary or artistic value. But speech prohibited by the CPPA "records no crime and creates no victims by its production." Ferber did not hold that child pornography is "by definition without value", but that it is illegal because of the harm that making and distributing it necessarily inflicts upon children. Ferber expressly allowed virtual child pornography as an alternative that could preserve whatever value child pornography might have while at the same time mitigating the harm caused by making it. The CPPA would eliminate this distinction and punish people for engaging in what had heretofore been a legal alternative.
AI models are trained on real photographs of children and adults
They're not trained on real CP though, that's the thing.
what are the consequences of someone using photos of real kids to make porn in the same way that streamer used ai on qtcindy. imagine the obama girls or the bush daughters being used in ai flicks... do you think they will stay legal because the court says they are?
For an example, research the legality of a photograph of a child that has been photoshopped/image manipulated to show breasts, genitality, or a sexual context
If you're looking for precedents, in Japan they jailed someone who traced over a real kid's pic and passed it off as art.
I guess in this case they'll don't mind as much if you train it on trannime but if you use real pictures to train the algorithm you're going to jail.
No, if it's generating results based on real CP you're going down worldwide.
Yeah I'm talking about the specific case where a model with legal images of children and legal adult pornography images is used to generate images of children in sexual contexts
The existing AI generated content is not trained on real CP. It's combing tags. So if you know what a child looks like and you know what a nude person looks like...
How old is a drawing?
try a jfk goyoy
https://files.catbox.moe/vyuypa.mp3
>Huge tits and ass leads to kiddie porn
What is this retardation?
an AI model trained on legal images of children and legal images of adult pornography can generate images of child pornography
They only work by basically aggregating pictures of real porn, no? You can't make convincing AI child porn without real child porn.
It's kind of weird how the diffusion models work, they can infer a lot of things we ordinarily wouldn't consider them capable of. I haven't tried to generate imagery like this myself but I'm sure it could get close enough with the current technology
Nudism is the workaround for this, you'd have to make the e-boi part of it with nudism pics and combine this with normal pornography things.
Nudism is legal as long as it's not sexual and you're not using it in a sexual manner, it has been a legal loophole for years. You still probably couldn't get away with just sticking up a picture of someone's kid naked on your wall though, that would be a no-no.
>They only work by basically aggregating pictures of real porn, no?
No. It's a predictive model, a statistical thing. It draws what it expects to see based on the words in the prompt and the image(for text only inputs its given noise as an image). If it has no cp to work with it'll guess based on other images. That may mean putting an adult body on a child, or it may extrapolate based on clothed/unclothed models, in other words try changing the clothes to skin without changing the body shape.
Just feed the AI anorexic midgets.
Where's the misuse? It's not harming any real humans like when global surveillance runs smuggling rings and doesn't surveils their buddies of pedo networks. Look at me, i am raping an non-existing child with my thoughts.
People make the same argument for having copies of kiddie porn on their computers that they didn't pay anybody for
They turned their AI retarded already but I think you'd also need actual CP or some workaruond, you need actual training material and CP gets purged from the web pretty fast. One possible workaround
>Input anime e-boi stuff
>Have the computer compare this to real pornography with adults if you don't have enough CP to feed it
>Have it make the e-boi into "real" versions, using e-boi combined with fully adult women
>Could maybe feed it one or two CP pics if you don't have a few terrabytes of real CP for it
Basically the problem is that if the pictures aren't out there on the clearnet it will be hard to use them to generate stuff. An alternative strategy would be to use publicly available nudism pictures.
Honestly the thought of taking a e-boi picture off /a/ and using a nudism picture to generate a 3d interactive VR real dicky video is insane, once they put michael chips in our brains it could even send the feelings directly to your dick.
I'm definitely not suggesting training an AI with CP, but I think the models are sophisticated enough to infer what is necessary to make convincing CP with just legal imagery
You need to feed it CP lol wtf. Sounds like the fucking Star Forge
you could probably train it with candydoll and other NN models and nudist pics on the clearweb lmao
Nah the models i have found lean heavily into child faces pretty easily with stable diffusion. The AI is a perv.
Any artistic/aesthetic expression of interest in CP should be outlawed worldwide.
It doesn't matter if you act it out on real children or not, the mere fact that you want to jerk off to this makes you a disgusting pedo worth of death.
There are such things as morality laws
Right, and that's the basis on which these AI image generation models will be restricted, which will require a far more totalitarian control system than we currently have, since the models are open-source and can run on any reasonably powerful standalone PC
They already have totalitarian control over all of us, but yes it will get worse.
The true redpills is that at least quasi totalitarian control are inevitable and as such we must choose our dictators/kings, instead of pretending we can live without them
I'm firmly in the 'kill them or die trying' camp, and I do see this AI stuff as a danger for several reasons
Honestly man what are you gonna do? The female form, whether fully grown or young, is beautiful and certainly does have artistic value. At some point the AI will be able to make it so who cares what you're opinion is basically.
I suspect that the most skilled prooompters can actually already generate stuff that will fool law enforcement
Let's say AI can plot out an actionable plan to kill the President, or other world leaders. Do you think that function will be legal too, or rather, that the elites would restrict the use of AI and outlaw certain applications?
there was an article last year about an AI that was trained on chemical weapons and came up with some new ones that would actually work that we hadn't thought of yet. Shit's getting crazy
Who says someone has not already thought of this?
You Anon's have no idea how far some of us have gone. When you lose it all?
And there is no end in sight?
You just work all night.
They can't stop you. Its only you that holds you back.
Besides. You think China just bought servers and their own chips for nothing?
Some people are so stupid about the world.
>generate CP porn with your computer
>somehow someone finds out that you have this type of content in your PC
>report to the police
>you are arrested on charges of profanity of the highest form
Of curse if no one finds out what you do in your room there Will be no way to prevent the raise of CP Ai. But at least there should be potential risks and consequences and such things are and must continue to be taboo in society
But first the West has to wake up, so probably nothing will happen and pedos are in for a good time in these God forsaken times
Define child
Pre-puberty Human
I don't think that argument works because there are several markers for and stages of puberty, and it's at a different time for every person. There's a reason an age is used rather than biology.
That's a desingenuous conversation, as it's pretty obvious who is a child and who isn't.
Where are you getting at regardless?
the "I know it when I see it" argument isn't how the law works though.
there's actually plenty of cases were that is exactly what they do, whatever you may think of that
What about a 7-year old who started puberty horribly early?
I started puberty at 8-9
you know full well what a child is, dont be a moron about it
1) People who do this need to seek help, and be locked away from polite society.
2) There is no way the powers that be will allow it, unless there actually is a degenerate motivation to push us into planet Weimar.
>we don’t have to watch real human women anymore
completely misses the point on why simps pay for onlyfans.
they do it because they’re real women
Stablediffusion + deepfake video + chatgpt + ai voice = the whole package. simps will be reeled in by the thousands, if the success of Replika is any indication
I didn't understand this at first but imagine paying a real dicky and having her do stuff for you, DAMN! I would even just pay her to weed my garden.
>Well 4chan? What are the political implications of this??
shit op
wtf rude
this amalgamation of bits representing something that does not exist in the real world is illegal
this doesn't really count as sexual under any current legal definition that I'm aware of (DOST and its international equivalents)
I was banned for posting an image of this little woman in the pool
I'm sure it was a bit different from this one
one-piece swimsuit
I bet I could find it in the 4plebs archive, I bet it was sexualized
although yeah mods are gays
SHE WAS ONLY GENERATED 17 MINUTES AGO YOU PIECE OF SHIT!
If it was possible to implement that type of global surveillance state, they would have already done so.
Right, but my thesis is - this AI will make it possible, in more than one way.
How?
1) through the building of political capital, normies will be revulsed by the thought of somebody creating kiddie porn with publicly available pictures of children
2) through the development of ai-based surveillance technologies
Where have you been?
https://apnews.com/article/technology-business-child-abuse-apple-inc-7fe2a09427d663cda8addfeeffc40196
You know this tech uses hashing, right? They're checking against a database of hashes of real CP images. And then they have a human verify in case there's a hash collision. This would be very ineffective against AI-generated content, however.
How would a real human know there's HASH collision unless the images are sent to Apple?
So the well poisoning has already started. Can't have people making their own porn. Let us just say if you are doing ai porn you are secretly creating child porn.
It is not gonna work, the death of the industry is nigh. Well it will die for simply stuff, you purveyors of porn still have the perverts who what to see real people suffer.
Well yeah why do you think gates mandated that windows would do full system file scans and report the contents back to Microsoft? They started this (officially) with win10.
>no one tell op about intels govt backdoor in all their processors
I can't even generate a hand, a foot, a decent face. Let alone a dick. All AI generated images look the same.
Spoted the garden gnome