2 more weeks bro I swear just 2 more weeks and my predictive text generator will revolutionize the economy (fusion power will be viable in just 10 years btw)
what's with you morons thinking 3d printing is something? Just replace the plastic nozzle of any 3d printer with a nozzle that pours concrete or steel. This is what some people did
https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-64893578
Gimmick, milking for funding whatever you call it, the point is 3d printing can be done with any material
Unreliable gimmicks that need a large team behind to position the robot for the money shot. Breaks down immediately after.
This is why you never see robots in construction or restaurants, too complex, robots are only used in controlled environments in factories. Same reason self driving cars mostly dont work
>Hadrian X the wall building machine
Lmao, is this a reference to that Hadrian the emperor who genocided israelites (in self defense of course) then built a wall in England? Cheeky Australians
>most offices are pure waste
Yet they force us to get back into the office. They don't want us to work from home. They crave the control and humiliation.
yes, some management and HR people just want control. and I guess for some people it is just socialization, so not really a malevolent intention.
but regardless of it being malevolent or not an office where people only work on computers or calling customers just doesn't seem "irreplaceable".
What I'm hearing is >a building is just a bunch of placed bricks and concrete!
It seems there are quite a few posters hereabouts with ZERO real world skills.
I always laugh when techy nerds without any real world experience start blathering on about nonsense like 3d printed homes.
They have no idea what it takes to build a home, nor how long it takes men to do it traditionally, nor how long it would take if printers got roped into the mix. They just think >hurr durr push button machine make house
all the details are abstracted away because this is the brain damage that being a techy incurs.
Well, technically you could build special machines for each element in a building, such as doors, windows, flooring, lighting, pipes, etc.
Instead of expecting one robot to carry out everything, it would be necessary for each robot to perform the construction, assembly, and installation of each element. It would probably not start to get cheaper than using human laborers until millions of buildings have been built that way. Specific architectural designs with particular material specifications would require for extremely specific setups and combinations of robots with particular capabilities.
What I do agree with is that expecting one machine to be the be-all-end-all for manufacturing and construction to be extremely naïve.
>It would probably not start to get cheaper than using human laborers until millions of buildings have been built that way.
And who is going to throw away billions of dollars building millions of houses using incredibly intricate and expensive robots instead of simply hiring cheap human laborers, when it doesn't stand a chance of being economically viable until after they've lost money on millions of houses?
It's just not going to happen. Robot assembled houses are a gimmick. 3d printed houses are an even worse gimmick.
Economies of scale, bro. If there were only one master stonemason in the world and a million robots, then getting a robot to build something would be much cheaper than getting a stonemason to do it.
On the other hand, if there were only one construction robot and a billion potential human construction workers, then it's just gonna make more sense to get a group of humans to build stuff dirt-cheap.
It's just a matter of getting tons of these robots built and working in order for humans to be replaced.
One robot can only make one house at a time, and when you include setup and teardown time, it cannot work faster than humans. By this account
Well, technically you could build special machines for each element in a building, such as doors, windows, flooring, lighting, pipes, etc.
Instead of expecting one robot to carry out everything, it would be necessary for each robot to perform the construction, assembly, and installation of each element. It would probably not start to get cheaper than using human laborers until millions of buildings have been built that way. Specific architectural designs with particular material specifications would require for extremely specific setups and combinations of robots with particular capabilities.
What I do agree with is that expecting one machine to be the be-all-end-all for manufacturing and construction to be extremely naïve.
you'd have to lose money on millions of houses before you had a chance of making it economical. It's not going to happen.
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Anonymous
For now you're right, it's only useful in very specific conditions building very specific things. But so was literally every technology when it was in its early stages. Hell, people said the same shit about power tools when they were new, too specific, too bulky, too specialized, too expensive, too complicated, etc. Now I doubt you can find any jobsite without power tools being used extensively.
11 months ago
Anonymous
You're conveniently neglecting all the worthless technologies that never made it, like steam-powered trucks.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Sure, maybe this specific thing won't pan out. But something similar will, just like your steam powered truck example.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Steam powered trucks worked pretty well, they just went obsolete.
I always laugh when techy nerds without any real world experience start blathering on about nonsense like 3d printed homes.
They have no idea what it takes to build a home, nor how long it takes men to do it traditionally, nor how long it would take if printers got roped into the mix. They just think >hurr durr push button machine make house
all the details are abstracted away because this is the brain damage that being a techy incurs.
It literally is just layers of bricks. Construction workers are low IQ. They are too dumb to do complicated stuff. They need very simple instructions. That's why they're not academics.
The truth, as usual, is somewhere in the middle.
No, AI isn't overtaking civilisation anytime soon. There's no creativity in it, no intelligence. Yet.
It's still all in clickbait territory, and that's all you focus on.
The point at which either a single robot can perform all of the various tasks associated with a job, or multiple affordable robots can perform the job for a initial cost that is comparable to the annual salary of a human employee will be the point at which that job is officially at risk of replacement.
The jobs with the best security against being replaced with AI are those that require the employee to perform many different tasks for which it would be difficult for any one robot to do, ideally you want to have a job that would require a fleet of robots to match your performance.
The truth, as usual, is somewhere in the middle.
No, AI isn't overtaking civilisation anytime soon. There's no creativity in it, no intelligence. Yet.
It's still all in clickbait territory, and that's all you focus on.
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Yeah, pretty accurate. It will happen, it's a procedural process though and two weeks don't quite cut it.
This will slowly happen over the next ten, twenty, thirty, forty...and so on, years.
Skynet won't take over today or tomorrow. AI doesn't have nowhere close to the capability yet.
>Your skills are irreplaceable
*Proceed to import millions of brown people to do all menial work under the management of AI that performs all cognitive tasks*
Just watched an interview with the CEO of citadel, some lad from Hong Kong, it's amazing how machine learning (AI) is already being used in finance but a lot of uneducated people still think AI is still a meme with little application in the real world. They're in for a rude awakening over these next few decades, especially all the office worms that only do a few hours of "work" updating spreadsheets every day.
2 more weeks bro I swear just 2 more weeks and my predictive text generator will revolutionize the economy (fusion power will be viable in just 10 years btw)
And then Lilienthal used ChatGPT...
Yeah, but even he was long dead by 1903.
>connect AI to 3D printer
Problem solved. Hehe nothin personell, kid
3D printers can't print concrete or steel
what's with you morons thinking 3d printing is something? Just replace the plastic nozzle of any 3d printer with a nozzle that pours concrete or steel. This is what some people did
https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-64893578
Gimmick, milking for funding whatever you call it, the point is 3d printing can be done with any material
>s concrete or steel.
3d printers cant melt steel or grind clinker
>3d printers can't melt steel
With jet fuel they can
>People haven't figure out that ai true potential is in sex toys
That's called "tempting fate". Boston Dynamics will suddenly announce a brick-laying robot at the next CES.
It's been done before.
That one's shit. Hadrian X can do all the bricklaying by itself without requiring for any human assistants.
vile israeli manipulators jobs will never be taken by robots
Unreliable gimmicks that need a large team behind to position the robot for the money shot. Breaks down immediately after.
This is why you never see robots in construction or restaurants, too complex, robots are only used in controlled environments in factories. Same reason self driving cars mostly dont work
>Hadrian X the wall building machine
Lmao, is this a reference to that Hadrian the emperor who genocided israelites (in self defense of course) then built a wall in England? Cheeky Australians
>Boston Dynamics
Literally never created a single useful product. 100% meme company, most of it is probably also cgi.
I wonder if the building itself is actually "irreplaceable". for example covid showed that most offices are pure waste.
>most offices are pure waste
Yet they force us to get back into the office. They don't want us to work from home. They crave the control and humiliation.
yes, some management and HR people just want control. and I guess for some people it is just socialization, so not really a malevolent intention.
but regardless of it being malevolent or not an office where people only work on computers or calling customers just doesn't seem "irreplaceable".
What I'm hearing is
>a building is just a bunch of placed bricks and concrete!
It seems there are quite a few posters hereabouts with ZERO real world skills.
I always laugh when techy nerds without any real world experience start blathering on about nonsense like 3d printed homes.
They have no idea what it takes to build a home, nor how long it takes men to do it traditionally, nor how long it would take if printers got roped into the mix. They just think
>hurr durr push button machine make house
all the details are abstracted away because this is the brain damage that being a techy incurs.
Well, technically you could build special machines for each element in a building, such as doors, windows, flooring, lighting, pipes, etc.
Instead of expecting one robot to carry out everything, it would be necessary for each robot to perform the construction, assembly, and installation of each element. It would probably not start to get cheaper than using human laborers until millions of buildings have been built that way. Specific architectural designs with particular material specifications would require for extremely specific setups and combinations of robots with particular capabilities.
What I do agree with is that expecting one machine to be the be-all-end-all for manufacturing and construction to be extremely naïve.
>It would probably not start to get cheaper than using human laborers until millions of buildings have been built that way.
And who is going to throw away billions of dollars building millions of houses using incredibly intricate and expensive robots instead of simply hiring cheap human laborers, when it doesn't stand a chance of being economically viable until after they've lost money on millions of houses?
It's just not going to happen. Robot assembled houses are a gimmick. 3d printed houses are an even worse gimmick.
fully autonomous pod makers for bug eaters.
Economies of scale, bro. If there were only one master stonemason in the world and a million robots, then getting a robot to build something would be much cheaper than getting a stonemason to do it.
On the other hand, if there were only one construction robot and a billion potential human construction workers, then it's just gonna make more sense to get a group of humans to build stuff dirt-cheap.
It's just a matter of getting tons of these robots built and working in order for humans to be replaced.
One robot can only make one house at a time, and when you include setup and teardown time, it cannot work faster than humans. By this account
you'd have to lose money on millions of houses before you had a chance of making it economical. It's not going to happen.
For now you're right, it's only useful in very specific conditions building very specific things. But so was literally every technology when it was in its early stages. Hell, people said the same shit about power tools when they were new, too specific, too bulky, too specialized, too expensive, too complicated, etc. Now I doubt you can find any jobsite without power tools being used extensively.
You're conveniently neglecting all the worthless technologies that never made it, like steam-powered trucks.
Sure, maybe this specific thing won't pan out. But something similar will, just like your steam powered truck example.
Steam powered trucks worked pretty well, they just went obsolete.
It literally is just layers of bricks. Construction workers are low IQ. They are too dumb to do complicated stuff. They need very simple instructions. That's why they're not academics.
Seems like a near term possibility to embody an LLM in a bipedal android.
The truth, as usual, is somewhere in the middle.
No, AI isn't overtaking civilisation anytime soon. There's no creativity in it, no intelligence. Yet.
It's still all in clickbait territory, and that's all you focus on.
The point at which either a single robot can perform all of the various tasks associated with a job, or multiple affordable robots can perform the job for a initial cost that is comparable to the annual salary of a human employee will be the point at which that job is officially at risk of replacement.
The jobs with the best security against being replaced with AI are those that require the employee to perform many different tasks for which it would be difficult for any one robot to do, ideally you want to have a job that would require a fleet of robots to match your performance.
However even this can't last forever.
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here)
Yeah, pretty accurate. It will happen, it's a procedural process though and two weeks don't quite cut it.
This will slowly happen over the next ten, twenty, thirty, forty...and so on, years.
Skynet won't take over today or tomorrow. AI doesn't have nowhere close to the capability yet.
>Your skills are irreplaceable
*Proceed to import millions of brown people to do all menial work under the management of AI that performs all cognitive tasks*
>millions of thirdies producing AI slop mindlessly for $10/hr
The future is bright
Just watched an interview with the CEO of citadel, some lad from Hong Kong, it's amazing how machine learning (AI) is already being used in finance but a lot of uneducated people still think AI is still a meme with little application in the real world. They're in for a rude awakening over these next few decades, especially all the office worms that only do a few hours of "work" updating spreadsheets every day.
Which interview is it? There's a few.
Yes