AI bros...

AI bros...

  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    AI isn't putting programmers out of business and not for the reasons he is stating
    Programmers don't write most of the code they use
    Something written in react.js typically has 17000 dependencies or so before you begin doing anything value added
    It doesn't matter to the programmer if this code was written by a human or a robot
    He simply takes different pieces and glues them together, hoping it will work
    Then it works something like 80% of the time and he spends the rest of his time fixing the other 20%
    Show me the AI that can tell me why a program isn't working

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I didn't write it either
      so who DID write the code?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >use AI generated code
        >AI was trained on GNU licensed source code
        >generated algorithm contained sections directly ripped from GNU code
        >get taken to court to make my source code available
        sounds like a great deal

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >He thinks the copyright holder of the original code will even have enough awareness to sue

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >create AI to scan code repositories looking for plagiarism
            >email authors to let them know about license violators
            >charge a finders fee
            thanks for the business idea

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >so who DID write the code?
        nobody in programming even cares
        I have GPL code in a commercial product
        I don't care
        My boss doesn't care
        The company that bought the company I work for did due diligence and I told them point blank about the GPL code
        They didn't care
        I have commercial JARs in our product and nobody cares
        We told the company that we are stealing the JARs from, and they didn't care
        NOBODY FUCKING CARES

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          > they didn't care
          you work for dangerously incompetent morons that have dangerously low regard for their own security and business. they should care, otherwise if anyone finds out the low level streetshitting going on in your garbage job then they will be sued into bankruptcy.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >you work for dangerously incompetent morons
            not news to me
            I get a paycheck, I don't care
            >that have dangerously low regard for their own security and business
            I know you're an idiot because you said the s word without laying out a threat model
            >they should care
            Not really, cope and seethe
            >otherwise if anyone finds out the low level streetshitting going on in your garbage job then they will be sued into bankruptcy
            Also incredibly unlikely
            GPL cucks only demand removal of code or opening source

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The only ones who care are large corporations when they ship software to millions of customets, nobody gives a shit about ripped of GPL code in inhouse products

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >nobody gives a shit about ripped of GPL code in inhouse products
            i've been personally responsible for getting the source code of several commercial products that used GPL code because these garbage corporations thought they could get away with it. they really give a shit when they're reminded of the blatant violations of licensing, especially when their reputation is at stake.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              cool fanfic bro

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Show me the AI that can tell me why a program isn't working
      That's literally the main example on the chatgpt site. It's a programmer going "yo chatgpt, why this code not work the way I want?" and then chatgpt proceeds to ask for some more details before giving a plausible reason why it doesn't work.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >That's literally the main example on the chatgpt site. It's a programmer going "yo chatgpt, why this code not work the way I want?" and then chatgpt proceeds to ask for some more details before giving a plausible reason why it doesn't work.
        but chatgpt is always WRONG
        that's thte part that matters
        plausible doesn't matter
        chatgpt cannot reason, which is the main job of any programmer

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          anons on this website are so fucking retarded that they truly believe "ai" is a mystery and nobody understands how it works. they are so impressed by magic tricks. if you took this low iq neanderthals back to the 1980s and showed them ELIZA chat bot, they would have claimed it was sentient. they're that fucking retarded and they need to be shot in the face.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          "Always" wrong? I think the people hyping this technology up are rubes but you aren't much better by going in the complete opposite direction.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Saying it's always wrong is inaccurate, would be better to say it's
            >not even wrong
            since it's incapable of reasoning and deduction.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        > plausible reason
        it only knows the training data it's fed to create the initial dataset, all scraped from whereever the fuck on the internet. it's a garbage in -> garbage out process. it's only going to give you answers and responses that fit with what it can find in the dataset, so it's unable to solve anything complex. it doesn't understand cpu architectures, doesn't understand computers (despite being one), doesn't understand instruction sets. i've thrown all kinds of things at it and it's failed every single time to produce anything worthwhile.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >That's literally the main example on the chatgpt site.
        No, the main example is ChatGPT debugging something obvious in a fizzbuzz.
        Real world bugs never come in that form, they come from some inconsistency at the system level between moving parts residing in different modules/translation units.
        ChatGPT can't even remember more than 5000 words, how do you think it could ever track down a bug in a production codebase?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Programmers don't write most of the code they use

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    the software I write for a living is 90% arguing with the customer what they want and what they actually want.
    when AI can do that it'll be over, but to me it seems arguing with a human is half the fun of my current customers

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Bruhhhh i need it to be like uhhhhh ya know

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    its over

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >100 trillion parameters is a low estimate for the number of neural connections in the human brain
      What kind of illiterate moron wrote that sentence?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Those numbers basically confirm the development is log growth and not exp growth. Meatbags are safe for at least another 5 years, I think.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I thought humans didn't even have 100 billion brain cells and remember those cells do everything not just reading and writing. We are super optimized beings.

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What everyone seems to forget is in big projects at big companies writing code is the easy part. AI is probably only a couple years from making code monkeys obsolete, but there is still a long way to go before it will be able to replace actual engineers and developers. I would guess we are at least 10 years out from being able to prompt our way to a large project in a coherent way.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >VBScript .ASP

    Bro we acquired this company "for its tech" last September and I got a Windows 2008 server running this. I can't believe Microsoft ever rose to server fame with shit like this at the time.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    this is what i thought also
    sooner or later some company will create the crème de la crème of one specific software(like servicenow, redhat, workday) and sell it as a service but no. greedy fucks fucked themselves

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