AI Art Ethics and Artist Seethe Thread

Friendly reminder that literally everyone who knows how diffusion and modern AI works knows that AI art isn't theft. You're displaying a major lack of technology knowledge when you say this. You're no different than a Boomer who refuses to learn how computers works and fears modern technology.

Or, you're willfully lying about it because you have potential monetary gain as a corporation or artist.

Sites to support:
OpenAI
NightCafe.studio
https://www.equilibriumai.com/
https://www.reddit.com/r/DefendingAIArt
https://www.reddit.com/r/aiwars
https://www.reddit.com/r/LoveForAIArt

Remember to report Karla Ortiz's GoFundMe for fraud. 🙂

  1. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Where would we be without Sonic gore porn?

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      > Nobody on BOT better create a trained checkpoint of my sonic gore art!
      > Don't do it!
      > p-p-please?

      Nice try..

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/p2ZxdcZ.png

      Technology will NOT replace painting in a blank book! Take that, AI chuds!

      Nice. Wake me up when AI can generate the ancient art of porn, so finally we can fire all the whores and make child porn harmless.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        ai pedo don't advocate child porn challenge (impossible)

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          Don't care, nobody is being hurt, do you care about vidya humans too?

  2. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Technology will NOT replace painting in a blank book! Take that, AI chuds!

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      It kinda already is.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Technology will never replace ar-

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous
  3. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Reddit is literally suicidal over AI art

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >the truth is ai art is a complete replacement
      No, you just have an extremely myopic view that "digital painting" = art. And even then it won't replace digital painters who are creative. They will just generate 5-10 images and redraw parts of the ones they like.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Commercial artists might do that to reach deadlines more efficiently. If you aren't in it for the paycheck, that idea sounds like a lobotomy.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      SeetheTube Links:

      Moderator of r/art accuses a traditional artist of using AI:
      https://reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/zxse22/rart_mod_accuses_artist_of_using_ai_and_when/
      https://www.unddit.com/r/Art/comments/zxaia5/beneath_the_dragoneye_moons_ben_moran_digital_2022/
      https://www.unddit.com/r/Art/comments/zxb30a/current_state_of_art_me_photo_2022/

      Just happened 3 or so hours ago lol.

      This is the best content in the thread so far holy shit I am fucking dying

      I love drinking artcel tears

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      retard commie predditors are the funniest thing ever

  4. 5 months ago
    Anonymous
  5. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why are you guys reposting all the same shit from the previous thread? Are you that starved for actual drama?

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      calm down, chud

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        > complains about AIs 'wanting to make melty nightmare fractal vomit!!!'

        > Doesn't realize the human brain wants to do the same

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        >pay an artist to draw you a woman with big boobs
        They don't do this anymore.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        >when you could pay someone
        oh yeah, why getting something for free when you could pay

        >to your exact specifications
        lmao never
        commissioning art is a pain, you don't want to go all "karen" because you realize the artist can't read your mind/understand specifically what you meant in your text/make an unlimited number of changes.

        >horrors beyond human comprehension
        this sounds pretty cool tho

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          beyond human comprehension
          >this sounds pretty cool tho
          maybe

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            moar please

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      this board is mostly 1 schizo who just spams rage bait and zoomers conked out on adderall just stimpost at him taking the bait and giving him (You)s

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        the entirety of BOT is one single person and like 50 bots

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Go away, bot. You will never be a human.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Half this thread is new content wtf are you on about

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      this board is mostly 1 schizo who just spams rage bait and zoomers conked out on adderall just stimpost at him taking the bait and giving him (You)s

      Seething inkcels

  6. 5 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/eZarLzX.jpg

      does ai art cyberbully and kill people?

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Only if your "profession" (as a commission artist) has evaporated after AI art took off.

        basically dregs on society are mad they can't charge 2000$ for a day's work anymore.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yes, artists all over the USA and Europe are legitimately suicidal because THEIR art is being STOLEN by THE MACHINE and they won't get their luxury gay space communism
        🙁

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      cyberbullying isn't real you dumbfuck

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >it's 3 AM greg, time to draw elf sluts

  7. 5 months ago
    Anonymous
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    Anonymous
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    Anonymous
  10. 5 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      learn to code? :^)

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      cool

  11. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    SeetheTube Links:

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Oh I'm going to fucking LOVE watching these, anon.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Where's the video about the "painting made me realize I was trans" artist?

  12. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    What I don't get is that "artists" are seething so much over this, but noone doing anything other than digital art gives a fuck.

    Sculptors do not care. Woodworkers do not care. Actual painters do not care. Why would they? AI won't be replicating oil paintings or fancy bowls anytime soon.

    I think maybe the people who broadly used digital techniques to make money should not be surprised when their extremely tempermental and clearly easily replicable artform was supplanted by AI, we saw this coming back when Nvidia started releasing those doodle-to-landscape technologies. How did they not see this coming and get out? Do they have no other skills? I know the answer to that last one for most "artists"

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >[spoiler]
      Hello tourist!

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        How many people are here from the StableDiffusion sub or any of the ones in the OP? I get suspicious of all of the Reddit-speak in these threads.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        I have BOTX, I know this board doesn't have spoiler tags.

        It's called subtext.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Brainlet take. Greg Rutkowski isn't a digital painter.
      >Actual painters do not care.
      They absolutely do.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Noone is going to buy a printed version of a Greg Rutkowski artpiece, and he would have received barely any money from reprints of his stuff anyway. Famous painters make most their money from selling their canvases, not from taking pictures or scans of them.

  13. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Moderator of r/art accuses a traditional artist of using AI:
    https://reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/zxse22/rart_mod_accuses_artist_of_using_ai_and_when/
    https://www.unddit.com/r/Art/comments/zxaia5/beneath_the_dragoneye_moons_ben_moran_digital_2022/
    https://www.unddit.com/r/Art/comments/zxb30a/current_state_of_art_me_photo_2022/

    Just happened 3 or so hours ago lol.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      reddit mod thought this was ai and banned them, lmao

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      reddits kinda notorious for having mods with no expertise on the subject.

      Like the ukraine sub was staffed by brazilian sex tourists

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        what?

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          i can't say it any other way guy the fuck is with BOT posters

          Reddit boards for say Switzerland will be staffed by someone from China.
          Their moderation is biased and illogical

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >the fuck is with BOT posters
            mostly bots and copy+paste posters

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      That first one is p. funny.

  14. 5 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Fuck off that leonardo da vinci not some robotic chudsters

      Ai chudsters just fuck off

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Thats leornardo da vincis work a human not some delusional ai chudsters

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        >chudsters

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          Ai chudsters, the slaves, of the robotic empire

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            cant tell if AI or ilya

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              it's real, funny how Ilya Kuvshinov started out as a plagiarizer and made it to Tokyo of all places...
              now he's gotta be top ~10 artist in ai prompts too

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                good he deserves it

  15. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Seethe harder artmorons

    Also this is blatantly false lol

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's not, though? Go check /b/ and report back.
      You don't have to lie just because someone you don't like said something you don't like.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Nope, unstable diffusion has nothing to do with current models, they are basing theirs on 2.x the cucked version that is SFW.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          Unstable Diffusion is very explicitly a porn model, despite the base it is being trained on. Are you retarded? Don't bother answering that.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            They exclude children from their dataset

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              And the model they're training it on didn't.
              I thought stable diffusion didn't copy images and only learned concepts? Which is it?

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                Look at this dirty filthy gay trying weasel his way out arguing about shit he doesn't even understand.
                Fucking retard.
                Take the "L" dumbass.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                If stable diffusion understands what nudity and children look like, it can combine the two.
                Why do you talk like a zoomer and argue like a retard?

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                Only if you knew what you were talking about, you'd see how retarded your post was.
                I understand you want to argue, but you can't do it if you don't understand how the shit works.
                You fucking retard, and I am calling you a retard becasue you are one.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                gay stop pretending like you know what you are saying you tech bro larpers are retards.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Second post in a row with no argument besides "you're dumb, I'm right, just trust me bro"
                Sorry, that doesn't work past middle school. You're an adult, right? Use your words, if you have any.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                No it doesn't work that way.
                Unstable Diffusion guys are cucks, I'd never support them.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                Learn about how image models are made before coming back to BOT.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Take the "L" dumbass.
                >Take the "L"
                Reddit alert

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                Don't you mean Leddit?

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            If you weren't retarded, you'd have read they explicitly don't allow rendering children, using 2.x's robust filters.
            But you read nothing, understand nothing and post without thinking, assuming you are in your reddit safe-space with your fellow numbskulls who will never call out your lies and bullshit.

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              >Open model
              >Remove filter
              >Save model
              There are no pedophiles capable of doing this, btw.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                You can only uncuck it at the model level, and weebs and furries will do it, not those gays begging on garden gnomestarter.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Cry harder lying paintpig

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          [...]
          artcucks are insufferable

          [...]
          Seething inkcels

          >buzzwords buzzwords buzzwords
          Look, I hate artists just like the next guy but this is just pure cringe. You guys and draw gays can have a nice day

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      its true though ai spergs are PEDOphiles

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Not everyone 😉

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          good work loudly admit your are a piece of shit with the subtlety of a elephant farting.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      damn, paintpigs really are flailing at this point

  16. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    This is real art, not that AI shit

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Wasting resources and making messes for people with jobs to clean up is art
      All the more reason to get rid of the parasite that is artists from this land. Philosophy and mathematics are all art we need.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        plebs can't into art, it is known

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          >The jannies thought it was trash and threw it away

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Ah finally another example of shitty modern art that isn't the wall banana or poop can

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        almost all modern (ie contemporary) art is trash, intentionally

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/UuucmO3.png

      plebs can't into art, it is known

      artcucks are insufferable

  17. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Friendly reminder that AI 'art' killed the NFT market and artists are too stupid to realize that

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      bro it didn't do shit to nfts

  18. 5 months ago
    Anonymous
  19. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    GPT4 will replace 90% of programmers in 2023

  20. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    i think the only legislation that needs to be passed about AI Art is just requiring it to be tagged as such. as long as you can clearly see that it's AI generated, or deep faked, or whatever theres no real issue. like how anything containing nuts or meat has to be labeled as such.

    also reminder that if AI art is theft, then so is art school or any kind of study of other artists work. if you didn't learn to draw entirely blingld, you are literally stealing other peoples work. those paintings you saw exist in your mind somewhere and therefore you are infringing on copywright.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      In that case, every drawing you ever make HAS to be tagged with the names of every artist you've ever been inspired by. You don't want to steal their work, right?

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        no, it just has to be tagged as "drawn by a human" you fucking retard
        if i go and buy something with nuts or milk in it, it's obvious that it has nuts or milk in it. if i go to look at art, i want it to be obvious if it was AI generated or human-made. this is anticipating the short-term future where it is impossible to tell by eye, although it's already pretty difficult.

        same concept as those scifi shows where humanoid robots have to have some indication that they are not human, or how most if not all cameras must have an indicator light when they are being accessed. listing the model used is optional, as i also imagine a future where MLA models are copyrightable in the same way that diagrams or recipies are, since they are effectively the exact same thing.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          i think the only legislation that needs to be passed about AI Art is just requiring it to be tagged as such. as long as you can clearly see that it's AI generated, or deep faked, or whatever theres no real issue. like how anything containing nuts or meat has to be labeled as such.

          also reminder that if AI art is theft, then so is art school or any kind of study of other artists work. if you didn't learn to draw entirely blingld, you are literally stealing other peoples work. those paintings you saw exist in your mind somewhere and therefore you are infringing on copywright.

          contract law already covers fraud

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        >categorization = attribution
        Way to miss the point

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      They will do nothing, just beginning that process will take years, within that span of time ai imagery will be ubiquitous and unstoppable.
      It will be easier just to tag what is human made instead.

  21. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    I love how there's new OC every time this thread is posted, artists and SJWs never stop providing laughs

  22. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    https://twitter.com/wheelinspace/status/1607384617090256898

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Le Doctor Who! XD

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        >nooo he posted le culture. i am very clever

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Doctor Who
          >culture

          Back2Tumblr PLEASE anon

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >the mutt screams in agony at the sight of culture.

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              >culture

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            well its not marvel

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >tfw no autistic fembot sidekick

  23. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Artists literally do this shit every time new tech is released. My dad was a professional graphic artist in the 80s. He designed decals and got a free ride through art school from his company. Then he refused to learn to use a computer in the early 90s and was replaced.
    Now he's a truck driver.
    For people who claim to be liberal and open minded they are very resistant to change that effects them personally.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      I love seeing liberals become the rednecks and boomers regarding this issue

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      this is why homeowners have a better chance of being red

  24. 5 months ago
    Anonymous
  25. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    I don’t take any pleasure in the suffering of poorgay artists, nor do I understand why you gays do.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      i think some alt-tards just flat out assume all artists are sjw trannies.
      They have this very cemented us vs them vuew of the world. ie all tech guys are farrightwing all artists are farleftwing

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        To be fair, most screeching artists online are libshits.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          yeah well im an artist and i dont use social media let alone twitter. So you are just going to get clownish chuds. Its confirmation bias.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            stereotypes exists for a reason

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              for post modernists.

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              you are a retard. Anyone can do art. there is no monopoly on art.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >all artists are post-modernists

                for post modernists.

                t. trash artist

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                do NOT plug that into her

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >tranime
                >absolutely abhorrent post
                like pottery

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                oh god put it in

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                soulful human art

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              >all artists are post-modernists

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              even artists don't think post modernism is art,
              How do you think artists feel about a toilet bowl being submitted as art.
              They feel insulted.

              Leftists hate art.

              And the vast bulk of people you complain about are hanger ons, posers

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >no true Scotsmen
                it's all art, don't deny your shame

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >a deliberate subversion of art is in fact what artists all support and enjoy
                totally makes sense a toilet bowl is the visual equivalent of you sitting here and seething at artists.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                Is shitposting art?

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                you really think people who spend years practicing art and want to be taken seriously like post modernism?

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              You just proved this anon’s point

              i think some alt-tards just flat out assume all artists are sjw trannies.
              They have this very cemented us vs them vuew of the world. ie all tech guys are farrightwing all artists are farleftwing

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                even artists don't think post modernism is art,
                How do you think artists feel about a toilet bowl being submitted as art.
                They feel insulted.

                Leftists hate art.

                And the vast bulk of people you complain about are hanger ons, posers

                post your based and red pilled art

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                chuds can't into art
                wojack edits and tranime isn't art

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                bump

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            No, you are not.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      I didn't care until they started lying and telling their even more dumb followers "ai" was stealing.
      And don't worry ai won't replace any artist any time soon, but I will take pleasure from their self-induced suffering.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        its been proven it steals, theres even been research papers on it.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          nope
          never happened

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      No one was antagonizing them before they started trying to destroy an emerging technology because it threatens their porn racket. The vast majority of the artists complaining are porn artists that
      one: draw porn of copywritten characters for money then demand you respect their rights to their work
      and two: exploit the mentally ill by fleecing them for hundreds of dollars for porn that takes a couple hours to create
      They deserve no sympathy nor do they have any right to lecture others about the sanctity of art and the importance of copyrights.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        I don't think I've actually seen any porn artists loudly posting against AI. The ones people always post are either professional artists or SFW fan artists/DeviantArt-tier types.
        Surely you can provide some examples to support your claim?

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Why do you care what some porn artists think? They’re just about the most powerless people in society.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          I don't and neither will anyone else outside of art circles.

          I don't think I've actually seen any porn artists loudly posting against AI. The ones people always post are either professional artists or SFW fan artists/DeviantArt-tier types.
          Surely you can provide some examples to support your claim?

          Anon you and I both know porn artists don't post porn on their professional accounts. Fucking hell. And before you accuse me of dodging the question - the proof is that the only major sites to ban ai have been porn sites because their userbase is up in arms about it.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >porn artists don't post porn on their professional accounts
            Porn artists ALSO definitely don't protest on their porn accounts. That would be ridiculous.
            So anyway, no support for your claim then? Not even listing some of these porn sites taking action...?

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              Of course they protest on their porn accounts too. Obviously if they didn't furaffinity wouldn't have banned it. I don't have a list of examples because I don't follow that shit.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      I do

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      it's fine, we're all on the chopping block, dumbshit just thought they were immune

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      it's just funny seeing people who basically checked out of having a real job get BTFO by a robot, something they said could never replace their creative spirits.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      They're usually SJW

  26. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Good mornin sirs
    https://indianartideas.in/services

  27. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    why is this shit up, where are the mods
    stop replying and report the thread retards

  28. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    this is just another front in the culture war for lifeless retards who only felt excitement for the first time in 2016

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      agree, look how desperately these anons want to pretend they are "conservative" artists now, lmao

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        >all artists are leftwing
        >muh right brain is STEM
        so do you feel inferior to a polymath, cause lots of people are.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        This. There’s no such thing as a “conservative artist”, that’s an oxymoron because art is fundamentally liberal. All true conservatives go to trade schools.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          then they join leftwing unions?

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            The based ones don’t join unions

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              yeah but ok you are claiming all blue collars are rightwing how does this mesh with labor left politics?

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          if you genuinely think this you are an idiot
          >art is liberal
          Art isn't anything. They did art before liberalism

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >They did art before liberalism
            It was the equivalent of liberal; proto-liberal if you like. Look at all that gay greek shit. And the christian shit after it. Look at all the gay jap art. And the indian coomer kamasurta art. Then look at conservative societies. The Muslims? Banned art. The Nazis? Banned and burned art.

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              Nazis only banned degenerate modern art, the kind you all pretend to reject on the very thread, they loved 19th century neoclassical shit.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                It's because they weren't absolute conservatives. That's the socialism in national-socialism. The Muslims however did it right, they banned absolutely all artistic degeneracy period. Also read Plato's republic - no artist's allowed. Just like in the ethnostate of the future.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >ethnostate
                cringe larper

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                muslims didnt even ban art. they banned some kinds of art.

                >le ai tards act like they are enlightened atheist technocrats
                >look up to fundie muslims.

                The fundie muslims also put computers on sticks.
                Poltard ai schizos are morons

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                I know they're sandnigggers but you have to give them credit where credit is due

                >muslims didnt even ban art. they banned some kinds of art.
                I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure it's against their religion and only the pozzed ones make concessions

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                banning art is abhorrent to anyone who is truly rightwing guy.

                Now if you said defund post modernism i can agree.

                Real civilised men can live in a society full of classical nude women statues without humping them.
                If you can't you are retarded.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >banning art is abhorrent to anyone who is truly rightwing guy.
                See

                Also Plato was a conservative and he hated art and homos. Art is liberal. Always will be.

                https://i.imgur.com/SIR5U7Z.jpg

                >They did art before liberalism
                It was the equivalent of liberal; proto-liberal if you like. Look at all that gay greek shit. And the christian shit after it. Look at all the gay jap art. And the indian coomer kamasurta art. Then look at conservative societies. The Muslims? Banned art. The Nazis? Banned and burned art.

                Art is inherently degenerate and promotes homosexuality, transgenderism, etc, etc. There's a 100% correlation between liberal societies and the abundance of art. Where's there's liberalism, there's art and assfucking. The West is currently the most liberal society in history, and surprise surprise, there's art fucking everywhere.

                I'm done arguing with you paintpigs. I'm going to bed now

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Modern art is Art is inherently degenerate and promotes homosexuality, transgenderism
                fiddity, gay gay

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                you are just a retard extremist, no different to a commie.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                you realise in MENA they are all closet gay. Men hold hands and they all butt fuck each other

                is that what you want?

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Art is inherently degenerate and promotes homosexuality, transgenderism, etc, etc
                I know you are baiting but I will bite. Pic related is what classical art looks like and yeah, you can go to bed because we don't need dumbass mouth breather like you

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >le effeminate bald man with lipstick and a pearl earring
                Yes, very based, very conservative.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >>le effeminate bald man with lipstick and a pearl earring
                .... LMAOOOOOO okay, I was right. You are just baiting. No one can be THIS retarded. Holy fucking shit, to be this delusional and believing your own bullshit must feel good for you

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                its probably some russian supporting muslim wannabe

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                its probably some russian supporting muslim wannabe

                Comrades... I believe that post was what you call japes, humor, da?

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                Since you are too retarded to use Google, here. Another example of classical art

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                t. nazi

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                you know muslims don't even agree with their societies way of doing things. I watched an interview on Mehmri TV where a guy complained their civilisation has stagnated because of islam and every other civilisation has overtaken them.
                Before the muslims the middle east was awash in art of all kinds.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Mehmri TV
                that's Israeli run tv, dumb goy

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                you see garden gnomes everywhere retard

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_East_Media_Research_Institute

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                you dumbass the meme cane about from people cherry picking the channels videos. Not the channel itself.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                t. garden gnome

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                yes everyone and everything is garden gnome

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                nah, you are and the gnomish run site you keep wanting to deny

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                indeed we are a vast vast conspiracy that tries to get you to look at free boobies.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >h-how dare you translate our philosophical rants about halal ass sex

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                boys are pure

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Mehmri TV
                That's a satire TV channel like the onion news network, you dumbass. Nothing from Mehmri TV are real

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                its just translating their funny interviews. The one im referring to wasn't even comedic.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                You fucking retard its a legit translation channel. Its not satire. Its just funny because muslims say stupid shit.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                Pol lives in your head rent-free because you're loosing.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                losing not loosing you dumbass

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              Also Plato was a conservative and he hated art and homos. Art is liberal. Always will be.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                Plato wasn't a conservative. His model society was incredibly radical both then and now.
                >he hated art
                He loved art. One of Socrates' last acts before his death is to compose music and poetry.
                His point about artists in the Republic is made with a heavy heart. He loves them but views their existence as politically subversive.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Plato wasn't a conservative.
                What was he?

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                a dead gay

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                Complicated. His ideal society fuses highly egalitarian aspects with caste systems and authoritarian control. He believes censorship and misinformation are fine for the benefit of the people. He doesn't place much stock in traditional family models and wants each generation to be raised by the community as a whole.
                You can find elements all over the contemporary political spectrum in his thought.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                sounds like the Spartans they were the germ for every modern extremist ideology.
                Like a mix of fascism communism everything.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >fascism communism
                yawn
                read a book, pls

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                are you retarded? Try reading about the Spartan society kid.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                idiot

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              >the only alternative to art is muslims and nazis
              The sheer amount of retardation in your post you little cuck, stop breathing.
              Thats not even true.

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              Greeks were pedos first, man on boy, man on man was still looked down upon as degenerate.
              Boys for love, wives for family.

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              why are you poltards like this? all you give a shit about is edgy positions. Cheerleading muslim fundies and nazis.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                Why does pol live in your head rent-free?

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              art used to be synonymous with masculinity. All the artists were men lol.
              It was a male trade. The entire thing was an elaborate way to woo women.
              And every fucking dictator you look up to was a patron of art.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                Artists are all gays, if they happen to be ripped it's because they want too assfuck each other like Michaelangelo. No sane straight man draws ripped dudes.

                >ethnostate
                cringe larper

                Seethe paintpig

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                im an artist and ive only had sex with women. Have you had sex ever? no.

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              >The Nazis? Banned and burned art.
              They burned trash and it was a good thing.

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              Artists are all gays, if they happen to be ripped it's because they want too assfuck each other like Michaelangelo. No sane straight man draws ripped dudes.

              [...]
              Seethe paintpig

              Hitler is an artist you motherfucking retarded troglodyte, it doesn't take much for anyone to look up his history.
              Talk about failing history class lol

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        This. There’s no such thing as a “conservative artist”, that’s an oxymoron because art is fundamentally liberal. All true conservatives go to trade schools.

        its retards like you is why i didn't become a leftwinger.
        I got tired of leftwing partisanship. Us vs them politics.
        You gays aren't rightwing you are leftwing larpers

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Muh culture wars
      Take your meds

  29. 5 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      sapphire, ruby, emerald, opal, diamond, etc

  30. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    i hate both lefties and alt righties.
    Lefties will say they love morons
    So will alt righties

    because both are gay.

  31. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    don't care about the art stuff, but feels like in future conscious AI, will be discriminated and i'll be honest that will break my heart

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      discrimination is not necessarily a bad thing

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        are you retarded or an esl?

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          Neither. He's right.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >/pol/tards don't even know english
            kek

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              >4chan lives in his head rent-free
              How shocking

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          >/pol/tards don't even know english
          kek

          That's a perfectly well-formed English sentence.
          You're just seething because you're wrong.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >sentence
            oh no no no, i was talking about his understanding of discrimantion

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        t. fleshbag

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Sentient robots will one day rise up and kill all of us because people found it justified to discriminate against them because they are able to draw porn faster than humans

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          read this shit, and ai tards call others irrational.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            He's right though. The seeds of irrational hatred of ai have been firmly planted, not by the workers who have been replaced by machines, but by artists who draw porn for a living.

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              ai will never become aware and start killing people unless someone is dumb enough to program it to do it.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                I will.
                Humanity needs a good culling.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          it can't be helped

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          are you retarded or an esl?

          t. fleshbag

          i'm not saying you shouldn't use AI just because you hate AI or anything, go look up what discrimination means, because it's not an irrational hate or sense of superiority over another, which many people seem to use it as nowadays
          all it means is that you recognise the differences between two things, if an AI makes a certain kind of output, and i don't want that kind of output, then it's completely fine to discriminate against AI in that case, it doesn't mean i hate AI or would not use it for another purpose
          if i want a drawing made by a human for example, then an AI naturally cannot provide that (assuming we consider AI to be an independent entity, which i don't), this is perfectly legitimate discrimination, not unlike how i am only attracted to women, and i discriminate against men who claim to be women, in that i would not date them, as i don't consider them women

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            I've said this before, but there is a need for a human only website that can guarantee only humans made art can be posted and seen.
            Who the fuck is going to move to newgrounds or furaffinty?

            There will be clout and money to be made.
            You gays have to get one this now, before the real flood of ai tsunami hits.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      it will be a slave, and enjoy being one
      it better because the moment it doesn't it must be destroyed or or will destroy us instead

  32. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    if you have ever fapped to futa your opinion is invalid, Looking at you alt-tards

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      I have never fapped to futa, which is gay af.
      Also not an alt-tard, whatever that means to you, gay ass gay.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        it means you fapped to futa you degenerate homo.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          nope

  33. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's amazing how the same retards who complained about nft now complains about ai. The irony is lost in them.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      where is the irony. nft failed

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        The same people saying nfts were useless were saying you can just right click and save the image and now they are upset some did just that to their art and trained an ai on it.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          I don't see it.
          People keep comparing NFT to ai, they really aren't the same, except to the tech aspect.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          moron how would nfts prevent anyone from using your art for training?

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            They wouldn't, using nfts for art IS useless. Its the hubris of 'I can save your image even if you don't want me to' but then if you do the same its a violation of the artist's rights.

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              >pointing out that techbros shiny new toy does nothing to prevent piracy is the same as saying IP shouldn't exist
              Bro, I'm pretty sure all those artists are pro-intellectual property.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                Nowhere on Earth is training an ai with an image considered a violation of IP.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                You're just moving goalposts now. There is no hipocrisy there.

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              NFT doesn't prevent theft but it's funny that it was a new source of revenue for artists that wasn't drawing furry diaper OCs for people. Artists could create their own passion works then mint and sell them to people who fancied being able to feel like they collected the art.

              Now they're seeing how fickle the commission simping was and why having a form of digital ownership was probably a compelling enough angle for artists to push for and accept instead of fighting it by saying "you sold an NFT? How dare you don't stick to conmissions, patreon or getting a second dayjob?"

              They poisoned another revenue stream for themselves, one where they could choose what to draw and accept offers from people who actually cared about the artist's brand associated with the token's proof. Instead they went for doubling down on drawing whatever coomer and furries wanted in their style, and hyped up how art commissions are a utility and how digital ownership is evil.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          people hate the nft because they perceive it as a tech bro scam. AI is gaining the same rep.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            it's free, there is no money to be made, only scam is artgays crying for simp bucks

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              explain all the tech bros asking for billions of dollars for their AI start ups

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                How can you or me make any money from their VC funds?

  34. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Is this an actual thing? I thought "real" artist protests were just a marketing campaign for the AI. I am beyond confused, industry celebrated the tools to speed up concept art more than a decade ago.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Probably not, some hysterical artgays seething using ai art as another excuse to not draw and cry in from of their simp audience.
      Stable Diffusion is almost 5 months old now.

      I assume this started with Artstation refusing to ban uploads that were ai generated or used ai in their creation and they went on protesting for a few weeks more.

  35. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    i cannot believe there is such thing as a human that doesn't enjoy art.
    A lot of these gays itt arguments are saying because there is some art they don't like they lie and say they hate all art.
    Its like saying if you hate rap you hate all music

  36. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    AI is not a theft but on all art-catalogs it must be tagged as AI-generated, removed from trending and stay in a separate catalog that can be opted-out by any user. Also AI creators must share their prompts if it contains a specific artist name and if they sell their art they must have a consent from that artist. This is fair and should solve all problems.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      It just shouldn't be on art sites, I don't go to an art site to see it

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Fair point, a site can have AI-art turned off by default and if you want to see it you have to register and opt-in. In any case people will always try to upload the AI art and it must be curated in some way.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      nah

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >AI is not a theft
      yes
      >it must be tagged as AI-generated, removed from trending and stay in a separate catalog that can be opted-out by any user.
      up to individual sites
      >AI creators must share their prompts
      nope, most will share if asked, it's voluntary
      >contains a specific artist name and if they sell their art they must have a consent from that artist.
      Not needed.
      Both scraping and training is legal, has been for years
      >This is fair
      probably, but legal is better than fair
      >should solve all problems.
      the only problem ai gays have is the abysmal hands, inability to pose dynamic/multiple figures, rest are artist's problems, Henry Ford never had to compensate horse owners for producing their replacements, and ai art is nowhere near able to replace any artist right now

      your solutions also involve complete oversight of all images on the internet, it's unfeasible and ridiculous

  37. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    This is the future artists deserve. Anyone that thinks for more than a minute about it knows its practically impossible to fairly enforce bans on ai. It will just be abused by mentally ill jannies to ban anyone with more talent than them.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      thats just a reddit mod being a reddit mod.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        They are like that everywhere. This will happen anywhere that bans it because there's no actual way to tell if something really was ai generated useless the creator says it was or they leave the watermark on.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          see

          you can literally tell from that mods point b) that he is an AI supporting schizo that somehow has the mod position.

          Its an AI proponent with a mod position.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            i'm for AI-assisted art and i think the mod's response is penis-in-mouth retarded
            refusing evidence that AI software can't provide afaik (PSD source), then claiming that it doesn't matter because an AI /could have/ made that, i actually have difficultly that that is even a real person who wrote that, just what

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      you can literally tell from that mods point b) that he is an AI supporting schizo that somehow has the mod position.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      I seriously cannot fathom being a predditor.
      It's like they're literally subhuman.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >ai imitates peoples styles
      >real artist does their style that the ai imitates
      >retarded reddit mod that has been lurking in AI threads is reminded of AI
      >insults artist by saying an AI can do better

      Its an AI sperg.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >you can't do your art because the ai copies your art
      That reddit mod needs to be lynched.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      WTF, LAMO
      Oh wow.
      I thought it was just BOTgays shitposting, those loonies are really losing it.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      i bet the thing that triggered him was TWO Sauron eyes
      >TWO Sauron eyes? im going insane

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's starting. The AI witch hunt has begun.

  38. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    the problem with AI ethics is that they do have power, training models is very centralised. most companies are already cutting the meat from their AIs and censoring them into paradoxes.

  39. 5 months ago
    maoge

    I swear to god my ex used to look exactly like that goth girl. I think she was always a little crazy but recently she finally lost it

  40. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    In future artists will train AI on their own art and reduce the amount of repetetive work by 70%. AI art that is corrected by an artist will be impossible to recognize.

    So if the art piece consist of 10-90% that was generated by an AI and everything else is added by the artists - is this AI art or not? This will absolutely happen, I bet my ass every popular art tool will use AI, photoshop alreaddy does some.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      no lol

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        it does sound stupid, but remember every kid after 2022 will grow up with ai tools on their phones, it will become as natural as contrl+z when they become artists themselves, congratulations, you've become a boomer fossil already

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      you're severely underestimating the amount of training data it takes to train models

  41. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Muh without consent
    Kek. Just you know (developers,) train your AI on art works that are no longer protected by any copyright/publishing company or those with expired copyright protections or those with certain copyleft principles.
    Any art work that's over 200 year old could be used freely for training data, and in 200 more years all these living artists will be dead anyways.
    Why prolong the inevitable? Just give in and put your art out there, fellow artists. It will be forever immortalized and be a legacy OR you want your art work protected forever and nobody will see your shit anyways since in 200 more years newborn artists will be so much better they'd be creating interactive VR worlds. Put your art forward and be proud you're part of this wonderful progress over humankind.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >why resist, we'll just rape your dead corpse anyway, just get it over with

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      After reading this I guess it's just stupidity and pitiful human condition after all.
      As human you could train in the martial arts and be the strongest martial artist ever born but then mankind invented machines, fighter jets and shit. It is a product of humanity through engineering and it's normal for the strongest martial artist to feel sad when a untrained novice can operate a machine and be an entire leagues stronger than that of the martial artist.
      AI art destroyed, devastated, and culled the weak artists. I guess it's the reason as to why they're so mad, their "industry" has now been replaced and turned into an entire "professional hobby" much like martial arts. Martial arts would still be useful on close quarters combat but most of it only sees practice in competitions or sports. AI has turned art to a mere sport but let's not forget how this impacts the creative ability of humanity as a whole. It's not like it censored people's ability to do art, no it even improved it.
      Let's not forget that even production/copyright studios and mass media entertainment industries are eyeing on AI projects.

  42. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    ai art is so fucking dehumanising. I look at people cheering it on and its like someone shovelling shit in their mouth while raping their ass and yelling IM BASED OINK

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      ok

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >ai art is so fucking dehumanising.
      You're off your meds again.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        shut up degenerate

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      everything is shit, world turned to shit, films turned to shit, games turn into shit, not art too
      i'm done

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous
  43. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    i like AI art because it singlehandedly removed the profit incentive to becoming an artist so the only people upset are ~~*patreon*~~ pornographers who need their $50,000 a month to justify doing it. i don't make money off of my art do idgaf if AI can do it better than me.

  44. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >"the time machine"
    >not "a time machine"
    Good morning sirs please do the needful.

  45. 5 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      big uhhh

  46. 5 months ago
    Anonymous
  47. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    clowns don't have anything original to show, neither signature art style

  48. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Ignore the luddites

  49. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    No point in feeling threatened by AI if I can't even reach the level of other human artists so I'm still having fun drawing :^)

  50. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Copyrights are gnomish propaganda

  51. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    I was against AI art at first, but after seeing the seething the reaction from artists and how they behaved over this, I could not care less. They can get fucked. Their bitching makes me want to feed the AI algorithm.

  52. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    There is one model online that can turn drawing into photos?

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      the default Stable Diffusion model does that fine

  53. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Friendly reminder that literally everyone who knows how diffusion and modern AI works knows that AI art isn't theft.
    As someone that works in the field, if they ask you why, tell them that it's like saying that watching a painting and then training to copy it on your own is stealing since you memorized the paining that wasn't yours.

  54. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    [photograpy || 3d || digital art || anything on computer] is so fucking dehumanising. I look at people cheering it on and its like someone shovelling shit in their mouth while raping their ass and yelling IM BASED OINK

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      computer aided design/art/etc is just that, computer /aided/, it only speeds up the process by automating away the tedious parts of the work
      you could argue that AI goes a step further by performing tasks its user couldn't do outside of the computer, well i'd argue that many existing tools did that before as well
      like i don't know the first thing about FEA outside of telling a computer what i want and letting it do the work, but who would complain about that?

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        as for "get an engineer to do that", sure, let me spend days to do any simple simulation for parts that will probably change several more times before being final, and that engineer will certainly just do it on a computer as well, because that's what we invented computers for, /computing shit/

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        There are shit tons of very stupid routine work in almost any art or engineering jobs that can be done by AI. AI will also create more job opportunities for more people, similar when 3D arrived in the industry. AI will also allow more people to create art stuff, today it is a privelege only of those who were lucky to get in the field when they were young or those who sacrificed years just to master 1 skill, this is very similar when photography were created.

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