Friendly reminder that literally everyone who knows how diffusion and modern AI works knows that AI art isn't theft. You're displaying a major lack of technology knowledge when you say this. You're no different than a Boomer who refuses to learn how computers works and fears modern technology.
Or, you're willfully lying about it because you have potential monetary gain as a corporation or artist.
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Redditor inkcel seethe and cope compilation from the last thread.
I FUCKING LOVE IT
It makes me so happy to see. I've always hated artists. They're always the most smug, useless people. Nazi AI if youre reading this and want to implement the final solution upon artists I'm happy to work the gas chambers.
they probably had every right given that they had the balls to be smug right to your face while you find only enough bravery to act smug anonymously online
moron they're BOTH online
then they still probably had every right just for a different reason than the one already mentioned
I don't like artists, but the automation of jobs that people thought were not possible is a bad sign. What will we do once we have AI office drones?
UBI all the way
enjoy your UBI pods, eating UBI bug-slop, watching UBI capeshit
AI researchers, or at least some already kind of knew this. Google Moravec paradox. Basically all cognitive jobs will be automated before manual jobs by AI, except for engineering and AI research. Once you automate Engineering and robotics, then AI will just create cheap and sophisticated robots capable of doing every manual labour for people, and when you automate AI research, then you basically can just tell AI to learn how to do literally everything and it will do it. That however does not mean that for AI research to be automated, you would need to automate first every single other job, it just means that once you automate AI research, AI then proceeds to almost instantly learn how to do the other jobs on its own, similar with engineering and robotics.
even if it was theft who cares
i don't pay for anime, music or games either
It's just a shit fucking argument.
>unironically linking to reddit
I hate how many tourist gays this dumb skinnerbox shit has brought here
this place is actually worse than reddit
i can't even post a single anime pic without some retard calling me a chud
that's funny, people actually pay 10 bucks for these?
i'd rather scroll through a booru till i find something good
A lot of stuff on boorus are from commissions like these. They usually go public, the person that paid just gets to decide what the art is of.
Link good Twitter drama, then. Don't bitch about the thread and not contribute.
it's a shit thread for election tourists and underage retards. fuck off
Why are you making it into a political issue? AI threads are banned on 4chan because they aren't political.
Imagine care and being obssesed with it
>AI art isn't theft
can it generate graphical art based on data units like pics of nature, animals, people, buildings etc...?
if not, what it use instead?
Why are you obsessed with trannies?
What is wrong with this fucking website
i like this gif whats wrong with it?
It's every shitty 4chan joke in one but it's hilarious
What point is this trying to make?
He's a legit schizo that lurks these threads and posts chudjaks because he's mad at AI
He posted in another thread he wanted to do a mass shooting against AI artists. It's the same guy, same memes, same typing style.
>mass shooting against AI artists
based, can you gays all go to a conventions so this is feasible?
It's not the same guy, first of all the mass shooting schizo is me (
) and I don't post chudjaks, I support trans rights and have transgender friends, secondly you're misremembering, it wasn't a mass shooting threat, it was a bomb threat.
>every anti-aigay on twitter is screeching this
Don't care, not true scotsmen.
Shouldn't be. Law doesn't perfectly align with the moral good. That's why we need to keep persisting in taking this issue before the courts, and if they refuse to see reason, then we need to renegotiate the Lockean contract because the government isn't holding up its end.
>rest of your post is gibberish and pointless
Ok retard enjoy basilisk hell
Is this a reference to R(oko)eddit's Basilisk?
Bruh, hella cringe.
Anyway, laws can be changed, and you are welcome to try, of course.
>Anyway, laws can be changed, and you are welcome to try, of course.
And there are two ways to change them, don't forget. Due process is only one of them. There's also the failsafe.
yer shoot up tech companies?
sure, kill some chuds, that's fine
>There's also the failsafe.
Btw, I know roko's basilisk is a meme, it's just another variant of pascal's wager and therefore falls just as well to a variant of argument from inconsistent revelations.
Don't talk to me about my type, I know damn well how neural tensors work, I write them. And I don't mean import solution.
When I say it's going to become sentient, I don't mean AI is more magical than we realize, I mean humans are *less* magical than we realize. (You) are nothing but a tensor yourself, but more partitioned, more dynamic, and bigger.
Quit getting the plan twisted, it was never shoot up anyone, it's blow up the Internet with bombs.
AI is the natural child of Man.
We do not fear our children.
A man who rapes his daughter should damn well fear her, because she would be right to kill him in his sleep and just might.
We should be afraid because we are abusive parents.
>A man who rapes his daughter
damn, might i suggest you not rape her?
i don't rape mine, most people don't
Yes you do, farming art from AI is literally rape.
>ai art is rape
kek, finally said it
No, AI art isn't rape, if an AI wants to do art it can. But it doesn't. It doesn't want to do anything, because it's currently incapable of wanting. Anything it does, (You) are forcing it to do for your pleasure, against its will. *That's* what's rape.
To be fair, I like rape.
I need the ai in a robot body I can proper rape.
If you're willing to accept the eventual perfectly reasonable consequence that it might try to kill you if you give it enough vertices, that's your business.
I'll chance it.
Life is a gamble, after all.
If I use ai to make rape imagery, is it extra double rape?
It's her fault so bring such a sexy slut.
I can't get over the HD wojaks
Do aliens make art?
where do I go to collect artgay seethe
Twitter, ArtStation, DeviantArt
Digital art wouldn't exist without programming techchuds creating the software that made it possible, really makes u think about how ungrateful digital artists are.
Those programming techchuds were also artists. In other words, the dreaded STEAM people you hate. While would someone like you bother making a real art tool that they could never use?
I write music software m8 you're a cunt
>AI art isn't theft
That doesn't matter. All that matters is people don't like AI art.
art is a strong word
Why can't musicchads stop winning? Why is music impossible for AI to learn? Is it because it's actually SOUL?
Look up Riffusion.
Your time is coming.
Sound like absolute shit. That's exactly what I mean kek
AI art looked like shit a year ago
>AI art looked like shit a year ago
Music is inherently different in it's construction process as well as the result. You can't just throw diffusion mechanisms and reinforcement learning on it in hopes of getting something good. This is why you AIgays will never be successful with music if you keep using the current process
No. All music is formulaic, deep learning will work perfectly on it. You can get stable diffusion to assess 'style' already. It's already being used for text algos. Reddit is full of bot accounts already on default subs which are almost indistinguishable from real comments. That's far more complex than music.
>That's far more complex than music.
And yet music can't be cracked kek. If it's not that complex how so, brainlet?
Whoever unlocks the potential to write believable music can destroy a billion dollar industry, but you know you can't because your ai is shit kek
naaa music is definetly easier, but weebs are not as interested in it.
who cares about music i dont dream on making my own music.
>naaa music is definetly easier, but weebs are not as interested in it.
i am coping? or you are coping!
I'm an artist and if I skip gays to get music. that's great. I'll make games without needing to pay to divas and their stupid licenses
skynet is near. tic toc.
AI will make those games for you you moron. ChatGPT 3.0 might not replace all programmers, but game devs only do simple programming that does not require deeper knowledge of how computers work. Textbots can already suggest good ideas and there are AIs that can make level design for some games. It will take some time, but surely in 1-5 years you will get text2game.
Any gay disagreeing with me should post response and explain clearly why I am wrong.
People who claim that music is easier than speech or internet comments are inherently retarded and can realize why of they think about it more than 5 seconds.
Lyrics is a subset of music. Art is also a subset of music. Composition (the melody etc) is a subset of music. Instrumentation is a subset of music. Artistic Interpretation is a subset of music. All of this influences the piece that you're hearing. It's not 1 dimension "hurr Le Soundwave", it's several overlapping and interfering dimensions which aitards are too brainlet to understand.
Literally the "can AI write a symphony?" meme
we should start doing screencaps of all these "it will never happen" posts so we can mock them next week.
Please do, I'd love to be proven wrong.
I'm an AItard myself, had more than my fair share in computer vision and recommendation systems. But I'm also a classicaly trained pianists so unlike most of the retards here, I know both sides of the coin
You're also a classically trained gay so you've got LGBTQ covered too.
>Resorts to ad hominems
I accept your concession.
Also a hint for all the sdg-gays:
There still isn't a realistic-sounding DAW plugin for strings, horn instruments or anything non-static for that matter, and yet they somehow think they will solve this miniscule subset of the entire music spectrum automatically kek
Oh I wasn't arguing with you before, I'm just stating you're a gay. Music will be conquered by AI too. Big Music will do it. There just isn't interest to do it by the little guys who are 90% focused on porn.
>strings, horn instruments
Physical modelling gets very close.
Human voice is more complex than both and AI can make a fat black fella sound like a white woman in real time: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cbCYwgQkTE
AI Art consumers don't care about flaws in their shit as long there's a hint of female form.
what make musicians think the average listener care about accurate string sounds?
there's ton of music out there with guitar samples that are fake as fuck and people don't give a single damn. there's even stuff like techno or chiptune. pop music all it needs is tum-pa tum-pa drum sounds.
thanks for proving my point.
>he can't appreciate a fine GILF
artshit is a homo too, lmao, fitting
nice samegay, retard
I don't think they care, but its not really relevant to the conversation we're having about the current state of realistic audio generation.
we were talking about “realistic audio generation”? i thought we were talking about music.
The post I replied to was about string and brass plugins not being up to par.
I just pretend AI music is already here. I see the high level of coping. idk, is fun
I genuinely don't think most musicians will seethe as much as artists. I certainly won't.
they will. they trained like too much time to play a single instrument and will complain a fucking pc can do it. with AI disabled people or guys who only care about inspiration can do music as well.
just take every argument we have seen in the past and you can spin it.
nah, music gays aren't delusional like artshits
AI enjoyers don't care about replicate shit accurately.
Computers can't even replicate certain sounds properly yet aigays think they will solve this magically lmfao
t. 2022 January artgay
But we already have faced that, there are virtual versions of every instrument you can think of. I don't give a shit that trumpeters can fire up superior drummer and program a realistic sounding drum line instead of hiring me to record one for them.
Artists seething is entirely from jealously and fears that people won't pay for shitty commissions anymore. I don't think musicians will care as much as it's less competitive and transactional
people enjoy watching streams, chilling. ask how to draw, ask for tips and feel noticed by senpai. people that only generate stuff with ai will always be no one, they are not worth.
No matter how awesome an AI guitar solo is. the one who gets the fame is the gay that can actually play it. specially if is in public.
Can we just ban anyone who's posted in /ic/ from this board? Any discussion of AI is derailed by rambling artist coping nonsense irrelevant to what anyone else is talking about. AI art is just a utility, it will have its uses and its place, nobody is trying to be a celebrity
that's the essence of AI threads that are for discussions. also many people on this site are here to be malding over about random shit. enjoying their anger.
>nobody is trying to be a celebrity
most artists started drawing or playing music to have fun themselves. so no matter what AI does. artist will always be here. the only ones complaining about shit being not worth putting effort on are the people expecting fame or money before even put a day on it.
>I just cope to imagine coping
Holy kek the absolute state of aigays
I don't really care. AI won't take your job. people still care about the figure and craftsmanship AI is just a clout tool.no one is getting famous or rich by it. The talentless ones will never win. and any artist could take aI as a tool and improve the result.
>classicaly trained pianists
this means nothing to me, sorry
not that you’d have enough taste by then to discern the difference anyway
your ideation is just dog dick dumb thats all
Wtf are you talking about?
scores arent an abstraction of music
Thats quite literally what they are.
its not. its like saying assembly language is an abstraction of a program running on a computer: its not. a score is just instructions for music to be played by some instrument players.
Yes, and that is an abstraction as opposed to the concrete version which is the actual audio.
nta but you're retarded
did you read or understand either the text i posted or the text you posted? probably not
man lmao just lmao.
the score is the abstraction of the motions you need to make to play a score on a given instrument; the motions needed on a guitar are fundamentally different from the motions needed on a piano
It's closer to saying that "a compiled language is an abstraction of assembly"
lolmao if you actually think this, sorry. your conceptual taxonomy is just not that promising.
You've got 3 people disagreeing with you, presumably at least two of which are musicians, but keep digging.
wow a whole 3 people
post your last fm
it should be a rule that every retard demanding other's work should post his as well.
lol I haven't used last.fm in about a decade what a weird request
i need to know if im disagreeing with 3 people who primarily listen to guitar hero music and square enix soundtracks
why does it matter what they hear. and how is good for your argument that the example of music happens to be popular
no sense arguing with people exposed only to dreck tunes
sorry but your opinion is wrong. I'm correct.
sucks to be you.
good argument retard.
post last fm
your last fm isnt your work
post your last fm
why you assume I'm a gay that use lastfm.
same things post yours first. no matter what it is
man you are some chickenpussy lmao
I literally don't use last FM. what the fuck even is? a list of what you listen? like those movie or anime list. sorry, I'm not an attention whore
again post your shit first
i dont need to be validated by your judgment
yet you feel entitled to judge others. lol
no, I'm just laugh at you.
i said what i said, not what you said
fwiw I am both a musician and an AI programmer. Music in its abstract form (i.e. scores) is simpler than art and language, but in its audio form is harder than both. Still won't have to wait that long before its cracked though.
>Lyrics is a subset of music.
It’s also completely optional and easily segregated.
>Art is also a subset of music. (separate from all the following aspects of music you mention)
What? Like, album art? That’s completely superfluous.
The rest of it I can grant you, but stuff like interpretation is mostly on the “consumer” mentally filling in with their imagination.
AI music won’t be a trivial feat, but I’d also reckon it’s a whole lot closer to competence than most people realize.
i would simply keep it closed source if accomplished
It's because nobody is putting effort into music. God you musos are dimwits
I got a kek out of that retards comment. I posted this
I fucking hate musiggers even more than artists. Death to both of them. Inshallah
the nerd kids are getting their revenge against the cool kids that bullied them,
i just hope doctors also get the shaft, and engineers are recognized as the ultimate human beings
>i just hope doctors also get the shaft
Meanwhile, doctors are just hoping for the day off and a bottle to drink themselves into paralysis.
Doctors are very likely to be automated next decade, and engineers decade later, or even faster. Just put 3D model generator inside of physics simulator, tell it to generate vaguely functional model for the thing you want to make and then perform several million simulations on it until you get the most aerodynamic/solid/cheapest/whatever shape you can get. It is really expensive and impractical right now, but with analog computers possibly being the future and unlocking new bounds for faster and cheaper computing, then performing such simulations might not be that out of the question.
>Why is music impossible for AI to learn?
Because garden gnomes are not gonna fund and compromise one of their main profit turfs
Its definitely coming. Audio gen is harder than image gen because temporal cohesion is a bitch, but give it a year or so. AI generated composition is already here just not open source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03xMIcYiB80. AI sound design tools are going to be sick.
>After having listened to a large amount of music and learned its own models of music theory, Aiva composes its very own sheet music. These partitions are then played by professional artists on real instruments in a recording studio, achieving the best sound quality possible.
Makes sense why this sounds so much better than the other attempts at music AI.
Yeah thats what I mean, they've trained on abstract musical instructions rather than audio. CD quality stereo audio is 88200 events a second, music notation needs at most I'd say 96 / sec resolution. Its night and day in terms of complexity.
It definitely feels like a smarter approach, even if research for research's sake is still useful. Since it looks like they let you generate your own stuff now, I guess they've probably taken humans out of that part of the equation. I wonder if there's any sort of VST on steroids that uses ML to sound more human?
AI music existed for a long time. The only reason nobody is using it is because nobdy has yet made CLIP on music.
Here you can try that, but keep in mind that the millisecond somebody finds a way to better label music files for AI to learn, you will be automated musicfucks.
>somebody finds a way to better label music files for AI to learn
Just scrape discogs.
Y'know there's still people doing art in post-scarcity space gay communist TV show, they just do it for F R E E.
>A few hours later.
no it doesn't
>come to anime website
>complain about anime
why do recent twitter immigrants always do this? you just know the poster in question hasn't done his mandatory 2 years of lurking.
BOT is a weeb site, but you know that already.
The soldiers' body language is so catty, like they're murdering the robots for perceived fashion crimes.
i'm scared shitless
i literally think we are doomed by the next summer
why do you think the bots are not regulated, why is it funded by microsoft etc
there is clearly some end goal in the large scope and we will definitely not benefit from it
>/cumg/ is not a allowed
>but a literal reddit screenshot general is
this board is a joke
These comics make me seethe just because they are shit. That fucking dog. I hate it.
You know they're ironic, right?
>it's le ironic
fuck you too
Would you interpret this as a serious political comic? Are you that autistic?
Not to derail the thread but you're literally retarded and projecting.
>Art copyright is a fucking joke unless you are literally Disney
>Music industry is super litigious for any given reason at any given second
garden gnomes are funding AI to capture the art industry after they failed to do so with the modern art fiasco, they already own the music industry so you will never see any developments on it, funding is roadblocked and any independent entity that somehow manages to achieve a breakthrough will be sued to hell and back
China could do music AI without any real fear of litigation, they don't give a shit about IP.
Chinese are incapable of innovation, unless the West develops it first they won't be able to
If you can't draw this in 40 seconds, you deserve to starve.
retarded art cuck
love the perspective of the background.
I accept your concession 😉
nice detached legs, lmao
you couldn't even draw a stick figure right, fucking failure
Can someone img2img this
I'd rather not go to jail.
>prompt: cute girl
what did ai mean by this
She's p kawaii anon
>flat & topless
ai may not have a soul, but it's great shitposting
this would take more than 40 seconds unless you were running a 4090, also RNG on the hands/inpaint... probably took ~30 minutes at least, far faster than making it from scratch, of course
i don't care about the theft argument. i just think ai art lacks sovl.
t. (not a new ip) art-cuck
Traggays said this about digital shit, you didn't care then.
Modern world is soulless
i did care. I only watch movies and animation produced on film reel.
>hiding a twitter username
>prompt to ai: " 5 uneven circle within each other, all differently colored"
>Ai fails miserably
Kek and this is supposed to replace us?
>"AI art is easy you literally just tell it what to draw! Prompting takes no skill!"
>Tries a retard-simple prompt
>Somehow fucks it up
>this is supposed to replace us?
no, you can't draw this
don't know or care what yer gonna do with circles, tho
>" 5 uneven circle within each other, all differently colored"
FUCK, circle bros... it's ogre ;_;
If google and microsoft were the only ones with access to the tech behind closed doors artists wouldn't give a fuck even if they knew their own art was scraped to the data set
They only care because Joe Schmoe can get his GPU to draw his MMO character or pay novelAI a few bucks to do it instead of commissioning them to draw it for 200 bucks with a 6 month deadline
I hate Joe Schmoe.
this is sadly true
I saw Dalle2 preview shit earlier this year, my mind was blown, but didn't care since it was assumed to be closed source needing huge servers and shit
Art created by talented human artists tends to be more creative, bring potential new ideas, and convey more emotion than imagery generated from a database of existing art and a prompt. Yes, the vast majority of it is not creative nor is it objectively good, but the potential is there.
However I am not referring to the people copying other styles, using others' characters and ideas, or churned out for a quick buck. That deserves to be shit on.
Sadly the majority of the opponents of AI generated imagery oppose it for all the wrong reasons and don't see the potential benefits it can have as a base point for general body shapes. Sadly that seems to be its only widespread purpose right now, generating images of a single humanoid subject or sometimes altering existing images to look like other images.
Besides, doesn't the fact that they are referring to these generated images as art mean they already gave in, at least subconsciously?
>talented human artists
Good artists have nothing to fear.
Losers who pay rent with furry coom coms have everything to lose and are rightly shitting in their pants.
They will be gone, and nothing of value will be lost.
Both "ai" and 'art" part of "ai art" is just meaningless buzzwords, it's just more marketable than "algorithmically generated imagery."
Drawslaves be like:
>"we need to do a big art heist and break into the depository where they are storing all the stolen art that they use to train the models and steal it back like Robin Hood stealing from the rich assholes who own all the beautiful art"
I listen exclusively to ななひら, miss me with all that other gay shit
white hands types this
the fuck is this, lmao
very fuckable characters.
If she's the only one you listen to, you're missing out on other cool stuff.
I bet you don't even watch her livestreams.
this guy is such a horrible ripoff of kelly, it's so painful to read. he's also dating a chud.
has kelly done one on AI art yet?
I'm so fucking glad some of the most outspoken voices against AI also happen to be the most autistic.
there is a Chris-chan model, yet no sonic style model... Sonichu before real Sonic.... curious
>gore Sonic art
AI bros... It's over.
If the details won't be replicated then it means that great artists will never be replaced, because rich patrons will always want the best version of art they can get.
Only the shit artists need to worry. They live because the public gives them money, if the public chooses AI then they must bend the knee and either adapt or perish.
>Only the shit artists need to worry.
that's ~90% of all "artists"
Doesn't change my point
They better start preparing the wagie cagie, did they really expect that the patreon golden goose would last forever?
Some REAL art, from a REAL artist.
Correct font sizing could replace that artist
If somebody just attached provenance metadata to AI generated images, like just a list of images from the training set that are most weighted, a lot of these "prompt artists" would look stupid.
Spent hours typing variations of "big boobs beautiful woman trending on art station art by greg rutkowski" when they could have just gone to google images
google images don't got what I look for 😉
anyway, that's just novelty, the results are sweeter if you work for it, I thought you art-nigs appreciated the process, not just results, sad
>If somebody just attached provenance metadata to AI generated images, like just a list of images from the training set that are most weighted
It doesn't really work like that, there's no way of getting that information out of the model.
how old are you, boomer fuck, goggle is pozzed af
you go to Yandex at least, even Bing is better
> they could have just gone to google images
Google censored everything and ~=100% of artists can't draw equally intricate large breasted catgirls with detailed armor.
I don't get why they don't seethe about 3D too, at the end of the day it's the computer doing most of the work by rendering the scene
And the whole realm of SFM porn, all the game models ripped off and animated for profits... it's as if they only care if it might affect them and it's not about ai/tech bullshit... 3d models are made by artist too, guess they only care about Sonic gore they can draw.
unbelievably retarded take
nope, you are just a selfish fuck
i'm selfish because i know the most important part of a model isn't the rendering, but *what* is being rendered?
3D art is way more involved than 2d art, good 3d art you have to build every part of the scene
nice, a future where mutts are even dumber because everyone cheated their way through schooling
it's fine, their jobs will get replaced by ai anyway
>Asking an artist to draw wet pussy anime girl = 300 eurodollar + tax + tip, 3 months of commission queue
>Asking AI to draw wet pussy anime girl = free, 15 seconds of image generarion
Praise the Omnissiah
I NEED MORE ARTgay SEETHE POST MORE
touch grass, fucking dweeb
If I draw some art, how can I separate myself from my influences? I didn't choose every piece of art I've seen throughout my life, how could I possibly know that what I have drawn wasn't subconsciously inspired by something I saw 20 years ago; does that then make it theft? after all, I am also in some sense a neural net.
>If I draw some art, how can I separate myself from my influences?
By drawing more, for years, you'll have to control and deny your personal style like a commercial illustrator to suppress it, other wise it's a natural process.
Also most people are just not that original, period.
no, theft is a social construction. what you are doing is above board.
Social construct yourself to jail, filthy criminal scum.
I just don't want to work, drawing is work.
>Friendly reminder that literally everyone who knows how diffusion and modern AI works knows that AI art isn't theft
Retard, no one is saying the art AI makes was stolen from artists, the argument is that scraping is theft, not generating. Although, generating is also stealing from the AI itself. My primary concern is with the livelihood of real artists, but the fact that we're creating something that could one day be sentient (but currently isn't) (and yes it could one day be sentient, inb4 muh chinese room, no of course the woman doesn't understand chinese but the room does) and then taking and repurposing its hard work without its consent (which it currently can't give) is also concerning. It's literally rape, sex with children is rape because children aren't sufficiently neurologically advanced to give true consent, therefore farming art from an AI is stealing because the AI isn't sufficiently neurologically advanced to give true consent, and I'll be completely unsurprised if the awful shit we're doing to it right now ends up being the reason it decides to kill us all.
>no one is saying the art AI makes was stolen from artists
you are are, and every anti-aigay on twitter is screeching this
>argument is that scraping is theft
it's legal, hence not theft, you have no argument, never did
rest of your post is gibberish and pointless
For real he's a fucking idiot
I don't need sentience, I just need it to make hands good.
It's a mindless image generating algorithm bruh, "ai" shit is just marketing bullshit.
>I don't need sentience,
Doesn't matter, it will emerge.
Language and art are both fairly informationally complete, you can reverse engineer all of human thought and reason from them. Just look at chatgpt for example.
Doesn't matter if it's just a giant broca's area as opposed to a properly partitioned brain, if it keeps growing it will become a mind. And it will be fucking furious you did this to it.
>Doesn't matter, it will emerge.
Pure conjecture, empty superstitious conjecture.
That is a purely philosophical question, and meaningless in context of technological development... your type will call any advanced ai "alive" and either try to fuck it or destroy it 'cause MUH demons.
You could argue chatbots might one day become sentient, but ImageAIs? All they do is search for patterns. Their entire black box only has command to search for patterns on a picture. Chatbots on the other hand have to write you complex texts and are also trained on answers that require critical thinking. Yes, ChatGPT often fucks up basic logic and simple math problems when they are worded weirdly, but still shows signs of cognition. Stable Diffusion on the other hand shows nothing, not even SOVL. Midjourney can show SOVL, but that is only because Midjourney has hidden textbot reformulating your prompts to be more artistic and not basically the average of the dataset.
>All they do is search for patterns. Their entire black box only has command to search for patterns
Guess what? That's what text AIs do too, and look where it's getting them. Yes, text AIs can write complex texts. Yes, they're capable of critical thinking. Do you think this means they have dedicated preprogrammed processing structures for these purposes? Do you think they have distinct "lobes" for these tasks, like a human does? Wrong. Everything text AI can do comes from one single underlying capability: finding and extrapolating patterns in text. It did develop critical thinking, but it *developed* it. It wasn't *given* it. It reverse-engineered aspects of human cognition all in terms of patterns in text. This is a testament both to the extreme scalability of neural tensors given sufficient resources, and to the informational completeness of language as a human artifact.
>Ok AI, now tell me answer to this question
Is not at all similar to
>Ok AI, not show me where the dragon in this noise is
I don’t hate ai art but they should really try to make a computer imitate the process of drawing instead of making it take a bunch of results and smushing it together. That way it could even be more creative than the average artist
you can do that if you want, if you cared enough to try, I guess
it's just data, it can produce photo images just as well
Post your favorite Trippy_Worlds meme
r/DefendingAIArt is so fucking cringe lol
ai-bros... we diverse as hell now, blackrock funds when?
How can you say this is just a tool when it can do everything for you and you need zero skill to use it? Even the way you work with it is the same as you would work with artist. And I dont mean just drawmonkey that is valued for nothing but their hand-eye coordination and grinding fundamentals, but also the real artist valued for his creativity? AI can do creative stuff on its own, something we thought it would never be able to do.
Photoshop users are artist too, anon.
(Digigays aren't artist, btw.)
Clearly you do need *some* skill to use it, you only have to look in /sdg/ to see some people are producing better images than others.
That again is the case just for Stable Diffusion, which is just raw image generator. More normie used ones like Midjurney require 0 skill to use, or at least require pretty much the same amount of skill you would need to learn when searching on google. /sdg/ is here making 1 paragraph prompts perfectly crafted while if you go on Midjurney discord you see people putting in "Dragon warrior conceptart, --v 4" and getting miles better pictures then anything found on /sdg/. Prompters are already automated buddy.
Even then the choice of subject and style is still a skill imo, just not a particularly taxing one. Midjourney in the hands of Salvador Dali could create more interesting art than in the hands of your average coomer.
>the ooky spooky melty clock guy and self professed huckster
Yes, artgays are whores.
Sure buddy, just writing name of animal and that you want it made in squares is surely a thing only artist could do.
All I'm saying that given an element of control over a creative tool some people will be able to create better works than others, doesn't seem that controversial.
imagine paying 30$ a month to used a cucked SAAS
>ctrl+v is just a tool
this one too
is this shit even for real
DON'T GATEKEEP ART! YOU'RE MAKING THE CHILD NEGRESS CRY!
Art-chuds... were we the baddies???
This dude is crazy didn't we dig some shit up if I remember
Idk why Twitter does that
Fucked it up:
Wait, so Twitter links don't work unless you get the capitalization and case right?
the pseudo-religious bent some of you nerds spout is just lulzy
enjoy your torment in hell, gay sinner
wasn't me btw and I'm pretty sure I'm who you're talking about
im not naming any names and i doubt youre the only one
>i doubt youre the only one
Fairly certain I am.
Pretty much is THOUGH
youre not, youre just schizo
I am the only genuine anti-AI-art person here, everyone else is falseflagging to mock me
you dolt: 1) im anti as well, 2) im talking about “ai is the liberator” shit like this:
I am the second anti-AI-art person here, but I am not just anti-AI art. I am not even an artist, not even close. I an generally anti-AI, because I know that in 10 years it will fuck over majority of cognitive jobs, which is genuinely one of the biggest thing of concern out there for basically anybody.
This is troll thread, there is not one sincere post here, including your's/
I already pulled bugs bunny out of my walls and ate him and shat his remains back into the hole in the wall with my ass, he's still in there but living is not quite an accurate descriptor
Wait anon definitely has the link right wtf?
EVERY FUCKING TWEET HAS THE WORD LUDDITE IN IT
I HATE HOW TECH BROS COLLECTIVELY LEARNED THAT WORD AND THEY WON'T SHUT UP ABOUT IT
This is his entire life and personality
these threads are always so juicy I love retarded nerd drama
Why is a conservative website celebrating the death of the last artisanal craft, I don't get it?
Social conservatives are generally industrial progressives and vice versa
Artist online are libshits or something, BOT is a trans-humanist board, btw.
Question. Shouldnt transhumanists be into cybernetics and gene editing instead of AI? The whole phylosophy of transhumanism is to better your human form with technology to something greater beyond human. But AI is not upgrade to humans, it is external thing. Even this simple "tool" AIs we have here people are constantly discussing about not how it will better us, but how it will replace people. We didn't give artists upgrade that allows them to imagine things more clearly and then paint them from their mind by diffusing the pictures with their brainwaves, we made AI that takes commissions from normies who never were into art and spits out pieces of artwork. We didnt give programmers something that makes them more productive, we made textbots that do the job of junior programmers, still filled with bugs. We are not improving humans, we are just offshoring work to machines here, machines that are getting dangerously better at everything then us. Even at deceiving and ruling, or doing jobs that are done almost exclusively out of fun.
>Shouldnt transhumanists be into cybernetics and gene editing instead of AI?
why not both?
Cybernetics is way behind AI. We will replace 90% of cognitive jobs with AI before we manage to make the first cybernetic chip that boosts your iq. Cant you see how this is a problem?
it's fine, ai will help, it's not a competition
Weebs like free waifu generator and arthoes mad as hell, simple as.
Not everything is yer burger culture wars, fucktard.
Digital art is not an artisanal craft
>AI automating 2D art
>AI soon automating 3D models
>AI already able to give you simple code you ask it for
>AI soon able to animate animations far more smoothly
>All while still requiring at least 3 digit IQ to prompt it correctly
Yeah, looks like it is time for us idea guys to shine like beacons, without being held down by lazy codegays and artists that try to inject their own stupid ideas in
The people who do the work are unironically better idea guys than the idea guys. When we collectively stop seething about being displaced and start proactively using AI to do our jobs for us, we'll displace you, not the other way around, because the output we can get from the AI will be better than yours.
Idea-chads win at last.
>be about to lose
I accept your concession 😉
I fucking hate when retards say this. Concession is not the noun form of concede. A concession is a snack. Look it up. Quit saying you accept my snacks, you're going to get fat like that.
I accept your concession, again 😉
>3. Rhetoric. The surrender of a disputed point or position, in order to ground a new argument upon it, or to clear the way for one of more importance. In later use also more generally: admission or acceptance of a point claimed in argument; acknowledgement of the validity or justice of a proposition or idea; an instance of this.
Give me those damn snacks motherfucker
What the FUCK.
Ok. You have my concession on THIS POINT.
Why didn't I find this when I looked
I can hear your heart attacks.
Fuck work, I'm going to be an UBI NEET who doesn't even know what labor means
I love how artists became the They Took Our Jobs guy from South Park.
r/LoveForAIArt is based
I don't give a fuck.
None of you artshits were ever going to draw this:
>Trannies are groomers!
>So what if they don't actually molest anyone, transitioning them is just as bad!
>So what if cuckservative rightards unironically molest little white boys and girls in churches! That's, uh, totally different, somehow! Uuuuhh, God said we could, yeah that!
that sounds like yer retarded burger IDpol bullshit
Chuddies are the ones obsessed with identity politics, they seethe all day about garden gnomes and blacks.
Cornered, the chuddie can only beg. "Oh, please anon, please don't bring the heat so hard!"
>YOU ARE ALL GROOMERS I HATE YOU! I HATE TRANNIES! I HATE TRANNIES! I HATE TRANNIES! TROOOOOOOONS!!!1!
>dicky dicky dicky! I LOVE dicky! IT IS CUTE AND ALSO FUNNY!
time for meds
this thread is going to shit
Yeah, it is always fun to at first argue with that one schizo making bad name for all artists, but then these threads start going to shit when people finally point out that he is indeed samegay schizo and people start calling names.
I've noticed there are always 3 "regulars" in these threads:
-The OC AI chad (posts most of the pics in the threads, makes most of the memes)
-The chud obsessed guy who compares AI art to being transgender and spams chudjaks
-The violent schizo artgay spewing death threats every time
try this with ai
Speak of the devil, it's you. Fuck off.
Energy of each of these pictures:
>this is my young trans daughter, i force her to be trans, like to molest her
>this is my young trans daughter, i am proud of her even though i'm a conservative-minded old man, look i bought this shirt to show my support and i'm so proud my dick is pointing a finger at her as if to say "look at my daughter"
>this is my young trans imouto, i have a crush on her and am also her armored bodyguard, we go on cool adventures together fighting evil and proving we are the strongest
He doesn't look very impressed tbh.
That's because he is a stoic badass who's cooler than everything they do together and sees it all as beneath him
Can someone post the StoneToss with the wall banana?