How will human beings distinguish between what is real and what is fake in a world where AI can generate real-life quality photographs, video, audio, etc?
What's to stop people, organisations, and/or governments using AI to generate endless fake "evidence" for events that never happened? What if they use it to fabricate audio/video of people committing heinous crimes that they never actually did? How would you even tell the difference in a world where AI generation produces material that is identical to real life?
How will humans cope with the total destruction of reality as we know it? How do we live in a world where the line between whats real and whats fake is blurred forever?
Probably the same way we cope with the holocaust myth.
By believing it en-masse. Great.
Keep your suicide pills handy, shit is going to be getting worse.
You are really showing everyone your deep-seeded anti-semitic roots.
But i guess that is what all AI bros are.
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Are you telling me that my great-grandfather was lying about beating those israelites to death and then burying them in a pit?
Was your grandfather israeli?
are you even real?
For me, it's that time the ayys helped the Nazis.
Focus on solving a worse issue like people committing the heinous acts
You really don't understand, do you?
In the future it will be impossible to tell who has committed heinous acts in the first place. An AI chatbot might lie and say you're an accused pedophile rapist when in actuality you aren't. Now everybody believes you're a pedo because you live in the brave new world where everything an AI says is treated as gospel ("It's smarter than humans, so it MUST be telling the truth!")
Now introduce real-life quality AI generation. Imagine the US governments wants to take out somebody who has become a nuisance for them. So they use generative AI to fabricate "evidence" of them molesting children in an underground sex dungeon, and put them in prison for life. Nobody can argue otherwise because you live in a world where it's impossible to tell the difference between footage an AI generated, and actual real-life footage.
Is this the future you want? Do you really think humans will be able to cope with all this?
The world has always been like this. Photographs can be manipulated, facts can be fudged, and consent is manufactured.
You do not understand how much worse it's going to get.
It's like saying "the invention of the nuclear bomb doesn't matter because we already had bombs".
The frequency of wars reduced dramatically after the introduction of nuclear bombs, now is probably the most peaceful time in human history. The ease with which photos can be convincingly fakes might impress and convince a 20th century man, but we are used to everything potentially being fake on the internet, *especially* photos.
>So they use generative AI to fabricate "evidence" of them molesting children in an underground sex dungeon, and put them in prison for life
Completely unnecessary. They can already put terabytes of CP they have access to on every device you own. Doesn't matter if you out of a prison sentence because in the court of public opinion you are a pedo and will be treated as one for the rest of your life. No "AI" required. This is the present.
You do not realise how much worse things can get.
Maybe you're not doing a very good job of painting a picture. We already live in a world where reality is decided by those in power. Where anyone who is deemed a nuisance is disposed of and nobody bats an eye.
Drive a stick.
Could you imagine how different the world would be had some literally who written an anti-war article?
It sends shivers down my spine.
in the future, we will probably pay OpenAI for "grounding" ChatGPT's answers about us
Only if you're cucked and you care what other people say. In meantime, in the midst of shitstorms and rage on social media, those who are not on zuckerbook et al. could not care less.
The reality is that you now have plausible deniability for everything. Our current gold standards of evidence (images, audio and video) will be as reliable as copying and pasting text.
There's a current story about a minor politician in my country saying something racist evidenced by an audio clip. The technology isn't widely known enough to sow doubt yet, but I could generate believable audio of any living person with saying the same thing with a short recording of their voice.
Realistically speaking, videos and photos will be considered untrustwhorthy and we will go back to only trusting rumors and testimony.
Governments can already do all of this. Wtf are you talking about?
i wish an earthquake would destroy oregon. and washington. and california. the entire west coast.
Never understood this meme. No matter where you are on the political spectrum, you already believe that at least half the people in your country are complete retards that will believe and parrot any bullshit that comes from their respective political side no matter what the evidence is.
Yeah we don’t even need images, millions of people get riled up by headlines every day, JUST a headline with nothing else to go off of
But ... woah.
This is the expression old /misc/ made to people when they got redpilled.
Remember My Little Politics, a lot of furry degenerates became right wing that day.
new /misc/ is mostly /b/ without porn.
But their liberators were the soviets...
Do Israel love Russia?
A gay, socialist israelite is running the world's largest and most successful AI innovation enterprise. What do you think is going to happen?
As AI tools get better at creating realistic content, AI tools that spot content created with AI tools will get better as well.
MY AI-ERINO IS GONNA HECKIN DESTROY THE WORLDDDD!!! NOOOOO
you can start by counting the number of fingers on each hand
Imagine how you could use AI generated media as a secret service to fake an attack on your country to give it a reason for a senseless war for resources.
>twitter screencap thread
dancing trashcans.webm
Well, it will bring mystery back into the world. You won't actually know what's real unless you go outside and look.
whenever this argument comes up, i wonder: did the roman society collaps because of forfeit information? no. people had to believe what was told to them. post ai society will be no different. people may start thinking for themselves again instead of believing what they see in a picture.
pic related.
>globohomo AI
>made by israelites
>fed globohomo data
>the precursor to the technohomo quantum AI
>all the vaxxed cattle have already been inoculated with it
Think I'll pass.
>post picture of recent earthquake report
>title it "earthquake from 300 years ago"
>OMGLZLZL AI IS SO SCARY BROS
We could do this shit with photoshop 15 years ago, it's nothing new
This. There's been edited pics in American newspapers, with copy-pasted soldiers and forgotten hands and legs of erased persons since at least 2001. Most likely longer than that, but those were the two examples I'd spotted with my own eyes.
Even the most convincing photoshops still had little clues and flaws which gave away the fact that they were shops.
The problem with AI generation is that eventually, there will be no more flaws. Eventually it will improve to a point where what it can generate is 100% identical to a real life photograph or video.
Not just images. Video, text, art, films, music, etc. AI generation is going to cause literally everything to become fake. It will be impossible to verify whether ANYTHING is real or human-created anymore.
you are massively overestimating the common people, I assure you that you can throw a cartoon at many boomers and they'll think it's real.
People were already falling for fake news 10 years ago without even needing photoshop, just throw a stock image over a facebook post and you're done, people will believe your shitty fake story
>People were already falling for fake news 10 years ago
Even longer, like picrel should have been enough to kill a news station's trustworthiness if anything would.
Probably not no. There is a slow decline in trust but it may be getting shored up through other channels. Like influencers to boost podcasts who are pushing material designed in the same PR firms that push the usual propaganda through the wire services or major papers.
>get riled up by headlines every day, JUST a headline with nothing else to go off of
Yep. Good ol' two minutes hate.
>so there's no selective pressure for the pretense of democracy anymore, so there won't be any pretending anymore.
Democracy can still hang around for manufacturing consent and as some sort of golden idol to hang false moralizing on. Which is most of its job already today.
>The problem with AI generation is that eventually, there will be no more flaws
The same assumption could have been, and likely was, made about photoshops. There's no evidence it will be correct this time either.
>It will be impossible to verify whether ANYTHING is real or human-created anymore
Lmao. He doesn't know that all of history is just made up shit the winner said after killing his enemy that will never get to speak.
>. It will be impossible to verify whether ANYTHING is real or human-created anymore
How did people live before the invention of video and photography? You did what your lord told you to do or you got stabbed. Democracy was never real, just a weapon enabled by video and photo evidence for the elites to rile up the peasants against their own lords.
With the disappearance of photo and video evidence, that attack vector disappears and now the peasants can't be so easily riled up against their lords, so there's no selective pressure for the pretense of democracy anymore, so there won't be any pretending anymore.
How did you think they did 911?
>Something wild is happening on the news.
>Journalists are telling stories and sharing photos of historic events - like the terreroists who could not fly a Cessna, but somehow managed to gain control over a modern jet airliner, flew it into a skyscraper, downed three skyscrapers with only two jets, and somehow their passports where still found only a few blocks aways from the events.
>The kicker? It never happened. It was made up the government and the media.
You cant just deny the Great American Holocaust here
Mods, take this post down
It's great because the NPCs will stop trusting shit that they have not seen irl.
this already has been a problem 100 years ago. it was also much worse before the internet, you had no chance of checking any information and had to rely on official documents 100%.
the solution to this is, and always has been, verification.
>Biden said peepee poopoo
could be fake, no way of knowing that this actually happened
>White House claims Biden said peepee poopoo
that can be verified cryptographically. the actual "fact" here is that they claim it, you cannot ever know it happened if you werent there.
you should treat information like that already.
Exactly. All this will bring will be the widespread adoption of cryptographic signatures and trust chains, just like you're used to looking at the little lock symbol.
And that is a good thing after all.
>it was also much worse before the internet, you had no chance of checking any information and had to rely on official documents 100%
Spot on. It's why they've focused so strongly on making the internet useless. Anyone too young to remember the before days has no idea how strong the narrative from the powers that be actually was. You had nearly zero chance of seeing counternarratives; they were typically the realm of photocopied pamphlets circulated by "insane conspiracy theorists". It's not wrong to say that the noise has gotten orders of magnitude worse, but the old mass media monolith has been just as badly hit by those consequences as everyone else. They hate this one trick.
>biggest impact of AI will be fake images
lol
they don't need fake images to make fake narratives anyway
>PEOPLE ARE HAVING FUN AND USING THEIR IMAGINATION. THIS IS A DISASTER!
It happens once, and then whole mass media system is discredited for decades and becomes unuseable by anyone since everyone will expect everything to be a lie.
So you win one fight, and lose a hundred more.
After everything I've seen in the last 25 years, I don't think there's anything the media could do that would cause the masses to stop trusting them.
Thats the problem, we dont exactly know how many people really trust whatever shit gets put out there.
You might be misled purposefully on that.
Thats the real power of it, you think its hopeless so you dont even fight back.
Nobody trusts the media though.
>another big tech propaganda thread
I hope you're getting paid at least
??????
Solved problem, pseud. Cryptographic sigs.
that solves nothing you idiot
VeriSign on cameras and their RAWs.
My common sense 95 works irl too
i just go outside
What people fail to realize is that there will be counter operative Ai's to examine photos and videos to determine if they are Ai generated or not. These filters will be built into all web browsers going forward. Question then becomes, can you "trust" the filters?
I feel like we're in the early days of photoshop where people thought it would crumble society because people could fabricate a photo of Bush sticking his cock inside a pig.
>How will human beings distinguish between what is real and what is fake in a world where AI can generate real-life quality photographs, video, audio, etc?
Digital IDs
They will force everyone to have an unique ID and everything you do on the Internet will be signed with your ID. They will inject a RFID chip in your body most likely later on.
Then they will roll out Social Credit Scores like they are testing in China and if you create an 'offensive' meme you will persecuted and punished.
Do you really think they released these AI toys to the public to have fun?
They will create the problem and then they'll offer their solution, so society will comply without need to force them, just like the covid vax shots.
Enjoy the last years before total dystopian totalitarian control.
>should we stop believing everything we see on internet ?
>Nah just shut it down
I fucking hate everyone
>Bot.info doesn't know about watermarking
>government or any group decides to fabricate past events like the holocaust but for their own people by using ai images and putting it in the textbooks of their own countries, making it real within a few years. long ago enough that no one will question it, dissenters silenced
This is exactly the sort of thing that's going to happen.
Also expect leftists to start using AI generation to fabricate images of ethnic minorities existing in times and places where they actually didn't, in order to prove "*insert country name here* was ALWAYS diverse!"
By trusting the authorities™.
wouldn't it be funny if Bot.info users pranked people on the internet and made up lies pretending to be real?
too bad only super funny redditors and twitter users make that kind of humor
Insane how people are trying to erase the create Oregon quake from history. Why?
>too many fingers
try fooling me
tl;dr
Glory the the machine god
>How will human beings distinguish between what is real and what is fake in a world where AI can generate real-life quality photographs, video, audio, etc?
Why don't people just go outside? Are we going to see increasing amount of coping before people realize this? Just go back to physical historical archives in libraries.
Oh boo fucking hoo, you're worried about the destruction of reality? Newsflash, reality was already destroyed the moment we invented the concept of "real". We've been living in a simulated universe since the beginning of time, and the only thing that makes us think we're not is our limited perception of reality. So calm down, snowflake, and get over yourself.
As for your concerns about AI generating fake evidence, let me ask you this - how do you know what's real and what's not? Are you some kind of omniscient being who knows everything there is to know about the universe? No? Then shut the fuck up and stop pretending like you have all the answers. People have been using propaganda and manipulation to control others for centuries, and AI just makes it easier for them. Big deal.
And finally, you're worried about the line between what's real and what's fake being blurred forever? Welcome to the club. That's called life, sweetheart. Get used to it. The sooner you accept that nothing is certain and everything is subjective, the happier you'll be. Or maybe you'd prefer to spend the rest of your days crying into your pillow because the world isn't exactly how you imagined it when you were still trying to figure out how to tie your shoes. Grow up.
have a nice day
i think the upside is that people will say and behave how they truly feel in the future. anyone will be able to get away with murder - because people will be implicated with fabricated evidence constantly.
so it's only okay when israelites make up evidence for their deranged stories?
Get off the internet and go outside. Most of the shit people complain about doesn't even occur in their day to day life. They just read about it.
>How will human beings distinguish between what is real and what is fake
That was already not possible, nothing will change.
These AI pics are really disturbing
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but Bot.info is too busy seething because some of us made a million dollars and some of us didnt, sad!
what if you jack off to a ai generated girl and the AI used 2% of a guy to make that girl. We are all gay now technically
in real life, 50% of a guy is used to make a girl, so it's substantially less gay
don't worry snopes and google will tell us what is real or not and give a fancy seal of approval about what to believe
Just rely on fact checkers goy, I know where this going.
>reality as we know it
Since when you know what is real? You just believe your senses, but they don't tell you the Truth.
Honestly all this Ai technology is neat and all, but until we have Ai generated porn videos and our Ai waifu... it's honestly all kind hype and useless.
What happens when they put Gpt in a router, and everyone gets their own tailored internet.
Bought a scale recently.
Everyone online is telling me to use 5-6 grams of tea per 100ml water from a Gaiwan.
Did anyone actually test this out? It's WAYYY too much freaking tea for such a small cup, after 3 seconds of infusion it's already way too bitter (black tea).
I think i've been lead astray by the tea community.