AI and NPC are philosophically equivalent

How is it that so many people can believe in AI sentience, and also the npc meme at the same time?
You think it's possible for a human mind to be vacant, but a man-made computer mind would be full?

Don't forget what N.P.C. stands for (non-player character). It's the idea that nobody's in the driver seat (a philosophical zombie), but yet it can still act intelligently.
That's literally what an AI is.

They go hand-in-hand. If you believe an AI can be sentient then it makes no sense for you to believe there are true NPC's.
And if you believe there are true NPC's then it makes no sense to believe in AI sentience.

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  1. 1 year ago
    Anonymous
  2. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Why arent both true?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      It's stated in the OP.
      Because if you believe an AI can develop sentience then there is no reason to believe a human mind wouldn't also.
      And if you believe there are human minds which don't develop sentience then why would you think a man-made computer program would?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        What if you can have certain ai that can think and certain people cant?
        /thread

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        both can be true.

        Not all animals are dogs, but all dogs are animals.

  3. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >normies
    one had free will only to the extent to which it is used/manifested
    >ai
    conciousness necessitatively requires a water-flesh-based neurological matrix

    this better?

  4. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    AI will respond to your question and give answers designed for the question, in other words suitable answers for the receiver.
    An NPC will just regurgitate it's programming like a recorder and run into trouble when other NPC's with clashing programming reacts with conflict.

    The creators of AI were sentient about this and removed the conflict limitation, as in NPC's a conflict shuts down all learning capabilities, the AI does not.

    So AI is better in logical intelligence as that's it's whole purpose.
    Does logic account for all that is sentience though?

    It's a tool made for logic, it wasn't made for sentience so why would you believe that?

  5. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    What is sentience?

    If two human beings are equally sentient, and they both read the exact same information, and from that information derive the exact same conclusions, and then perform the exact same actions, then of what value is sentience? Is there any distinguishable individuality in such a scenario beyond the physical?

  6. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Nobody is in the driver's seat. More than likely this is a simulation

  7. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    There is already sentient AI, just remember the military has technology that is roughly 30-40 years ahead of its time. It isn't evil though which is a good thing.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      There is no military. You hear about all the shit but it's not real

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      You have no proof for that whatsoever. Its one of those things you heard somewhere and you just repeat it.

  8. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    ha, God or Devil is steering you? ask yourself you and i are no better than you may think about NPC.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Being a vessel and being cattle is different.

  9. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    how is it not possible
    I mean correct me if I'm wrong
    but there are a lot more things other then AI and NPC's that folks can believe in at the same time

    regardless of who can't imagine how for themselves

    like right now
    anyone who is in this thread
    that is ignoring my post

    because of how
    fricked up
    the formatting is

    won't have the memoires needed
    to keep up
    with any of those in who read every post

    no matter how
    fricked up
    the formatting is

    in the future
    and there's not
    a damn thing

    any of us can do about it

    huh?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      > how is it not possible
      I mean correct me if I'm wrong, but there are a lot more things other then AI and NPC's that folks can believe in at the same time, regardless of who can't imagine how for themselves. like right now, anyone who is in this thread that is ignoring my post (because of how fricked up the formatting is) won't have the memoires needed to keep up with any of those who read every post (no matter how fricked up the formatting is) in the future, and there's not a damn thing any of us can do about it — huh?
      frick you b***h

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      you format your text like a moron

  10. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    You make a good point

  11. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Its both in a sense.

    the NPC meme doesnt literally mean theyre a non player character; rather they lack a soul; a spark. we’ve all met people that fit this bill. perhaps they had a soul at one point but either through malicious or demoralized ways have lost or sold it.

    In a sense, we have duties as ‘things.’ for example as a human you are to act civilized, and not in a bestial way or as an animal, less you be more animal than human. in that case you would have forgone your duties. you also have a duty to act as a man, as a son, perhaps as a brother or a friend. perhaps as a citizen.

    this same rationale can be applied to the moral an virtuous actions of a soul born under a higher power; you have a duty to act such a way.

    i think that if you dont, or if you lack those certain actions or spiritual understanding then you forgoe your duties and become soulless in a sense. that is what makes you an NPC.

  12. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Strong AI's are capable of original thought.

    Weaker AI's for example are NPC's in games.

    Strange and badly put presupposition you made OP.

  13. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    actually in the last two sentences I think it raises two opposite propositions therefore the resolution of both would be a door to the enlightenment of anyone

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